DaleCaruso
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14 years ago @ Big Government - The Haunting Slave Chi... · 1 reply · +3 points
Also - there were NO slave ships were owned by southerners - ALL slave trade and slave trading companies were NORTHERN companies - and the two major slave ports - New York and Boston.
14 years ago @ Big Government - The Haunting Slave Chi... · 1 reply · +4 points
Several things to keep in perspective - the analogy "which three million fellow Americans were held as slaves literally in chains and shackles, with no more legal rights than a goat." is one that is commonly held by us today - but I don't believe is accurate.
Consider just the information given concerning the photo - "accompanied by a document detailing the sale of “John” for $1,150 in 1854" - This means that if "John" were purchased in today's dollars, it would have cost his owner (using the last complete year for calculation- 2009) $27,123.86. If his "brother" cost anywhere near that amount - and we can assume that the "owner" had a number of slaves ... this captive workforce represented a sizable investment - so the goat analogy hardly applies. One must remember too that "slaves" where not exclusive to picking cotton on plantations ... serving as everything from household staff and workers in other fields of employment throughout both the North and the South. Also, when you read the official records and diaries of that time - you will find that most all were provided for in the wills of their "owners" - everything ranging from and including their Freedom, and often financial reward.
One commenter pointed out that "The United States: 1865, after the American Civil War (Many states abolished slavery for themselves at various dates between 1777 and 1864)" this is correct - But it must be noted that Slavery was abolished in the Confederate Constitution in 1861.
Also mentioned above 0"many states abolished slavery prior - true, however these northern states who did - also passed legislation that while freeing the slaves - also preventing them from residing in their state.
As abhorrent as slavery is - it must be considered (when looking back) in the context of the times. It was one of two primary sources of labor (and actually the lessor of the two) - companion to it was indentured servitude. (usually passage to this country was provided for a specified period of time. Conditions for both varied depending on the individual that was the provider.
The war of 1861-1865 was NOT fought over the issue of slavery - it is doubtful that most who fought for the south ever even seen a slave in their lifetime. At the time, BOTH indentured servitude and slavery were passing from the scene - as Kulak pointed out - worldwide - the primary reason - it was ECONOMICALLY not feasible any longer.
Peteee raise a point that I would almost agree with that of "we are getting back to it. what do you think taxation is?"
I would add to his/her point - to also consider this desire to allow illegals to fluidly come into this country.
While we - as humanity - have "abolished" formal slavery and indentured servitude from the books - we see it continue in the mindset of the species, except now we practice it without cost - or at least minimal cost to the "owner" - or even profit with literally NO cost to the owners. consider
The politicians in Washington to the populace
Union leaders to their rank and file (collection of dues - in return for little or no real service in return)
and to a lesser degree
Employers to their employees
14 years ago @ Big Government - Breaking: Miles of Oil... · 0 replies · +1 points
14 years ago @ Big Government - America's Deficit Spen... · 1 reply · +4 points
14 years ago @ Breitbart.com - Brown demands to be sw... · 0 replies · -1 points
Brown had initially said that the Feb 11th was fine - but now wants to be sworn in immediately .... Sorry, I am beginning to think he is no more than politics as usual ... just slide along, hoping no one will notice ... problem is WE are noticing.
Wasn't it also last week that he touted the fact that he was "his own man" - perhaps, at times voting with the Dems ... and/or the Republicans ... that he wasn't beholding to anyone - now that has GOT to miff the people of Mass. who elected him ... I was under the assumption that he worked for them.
Also last week wasn't there a flurry of talk around the republican party that Brown might make the perfect candidate for the presidency in 2012 - Are we to assume the trend of thought withing the Republican Party is to "fight fire - with fire"???? By putting forward their own totally unqualified, inexperienced candidate.
It just becomes increasingly obvious that there is NO difference between the reds and blues
14 years ago @ Big Government - Saturday Open Thread: ... · 0 replies · +1 points
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WSr0pNLNy0
14 years ago @ Tenth Amendment Center - Our Dead Constitution · 2 replies · +1 points
"U.S. Forces Plan Direct Action Against American Citizens"
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/12/us-forces-plan-direct-action-against-american-citizens/
Here is a youtube link to the audio that the article refers to;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyFgS3G90Q
This is frightening - frightening because what he is saying is highly plausible - However, I think perhaps the only caveat to this is that I wonder if the US Military would even side with the central government considering how it has been so maligned by this administration.
I would wonder if they would react in the opposite direction. - At least I would hope so.
I have had a growing sense that perhaps - just perhaps one of the reasons that Congress seemingly acts in total disregard to the will of the "people" is not that "the American people will forget all this by next November's elections" - rather, that they don't envision elections even begin held next year. I so hope I am wrong.
14 years ago @ Tenth Amendment Center - Our Dead Constitution · 0 replies · +1 points
I NEVER mentioned anything in a present tense .... I reminded him that the Third Reich under Hitler was in power around ten years or so BEFORE WWII broke out and that in the pre-war years, Hitler, Roosevelt, and Mussolini were often compared (in a positive sense) and ALL three in a sense admired one another. I also reminded him and ALL the students that an important thing to remember is that to compare is NOT to equate.
Perhaps one of the reasons that history repeats, is that we attach so much credence to the characters on stage at the moment of history, rather than recognizing that PATTERNS that caused the moment.
The trend toward fascism was wide spread in the world (including the United States)- really since just before the turn of the century .. 19th into the 20th - like anything it ebbs and flows .. advancing and reseeding.
Personally, I don't attach a moral judgement to any of the "ocracies" or "isms" ... to me they are "things"
I was a journalist for over 20 years ... and during that time made many close friends in BOTH political parties ... what is sad in a way is that I have been retired for 15 years and many of those "friends" ARE STILL IN WASHINGTON! But the Democrats I know would swear to you I am a Republican ... and the Republicans would bet their first born, that I was a Democrat. In truth .. I am a Political Atheist. Or perhaps a more crass way of putting it is that I am not politically bigoted at all ... I don't like ANYONE - Equally.
14 years ago @ Tenth Amendment Center - Our Dead Constitution · 2 replies · +1 points
An excellent book - if I may recommend - The Rise and Fall of Society by Frank Chodorov.
It is available through the Ludwig Von Mises Institute - in hardcover, paperback - or one can download it free in .pdf format.
I thought this highly interesting -- from the first chapter;
"The story of the American State is instructive. Its birth was most auspicious, being midwifed by a coterie of men
unusually wise in the history of political institutions and committed to the safeguarding of the infant from the mistakes of its predecessors. Apparently, none of the blemishes of tradition marked the new State. It was not burdened with the inheritance of a feudal or a caste system. It did not have to live down the doctrine of "divine right/' nor was it marked with the scars of conquest that had made the childhood of other States difficult. It was fed on strong stuff: Rousseau's doctrine that government derived its powers from the consent of the governed, Voltaire's freedom of speech and thought, Locke's justification of revolution, and, above all, the doctrine of inherent rights. There was no regime of status to stunt its growth. In fact, everything was de novo."
14 years ago @ Breitbart.com - EPA head: US must make... · 0 replies · +2 points
I'm Sorry, So Sorry