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15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - July 16 · 0 replies · +2 points
Please do not lump me among those you are disappointed in. Please read my replies to Jean Chauvin. It has been respectful. As to moving on, and if you are really desirous of accomplishing something, I invite you to read my profile, click the link. check it out, click the other links, leave a comment, contact me and get involved. I could sure use some help.
1 of WE,
Dahni
1 of WE,
Dahni
15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - July 16 · 0 replies · -2 points
Would you like something else to do? Read my profile, click the link, check it out, click the other links, leave a comment and get involved. I could sure use some help.
1 of WE,
Dahni
1 of WE,
Dahni
15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - July 16 · 0 replies · +1 points
Part 2 of 2
It was a woman that was deceived in the Garden of Eden. Adam knew what was wrong and did it anyway. Which sin is weaker? Neither was weaker, because both acts separated them from God. It was after this point that God set the order and Eve was to turn to Adam and Adam to God. Personally, I have been deceived and I have also, willfully done things wrong.
David the King had a man killed so that he could have his wife, Bathsheba. Bathsheba was the mother of Solomon the wise man who also, later became a mad man and brought back into Israel, the very things he once banished. But Solomon wrote of his mother Bathsheba in Proverbs 31. Bathsheba was a virtuous (strong in all ways), woman. She bought and sold property, managed her household and on and on. This proverb was not written because these qualities do not exist in women, but because they do and that every woman should aspire to excellence and virtue (strength in all points)! And every man should expect these qualities, seek to bring them out and honor them, married to them or not.
It was a young woman between the ages of 12-16 that said, “Be it unto me according to thy Word,” and she brought forth, the “promised seed.” It was primarily women that attended Jesus at his crucifixion when his own disciples were absent, except for John. It was women that attended the tomb to try and properly prepare his body for burial, but he had already risen. And it was a woman, the only one to believe in his resurrection and the first to see Jesus Christ in his resurrected body.
The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed. The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. The coming of the Messiah or Jesus Christ is the grand subject of the Bible and his attributes appear in every single book of the Bible. For example, he is the promised seed of the woman mentioned in the first book or Genesis. In the book of Ruth, He is the Kinsman Redeemer. Ruth was the daughter of an incestuous relationship. Lot’s daughters husbands were dead. They got their father drunk and slept with him to have children. Ruth was one of those results. Both she and her mother-in-law lost their husbands. By custom, a kinsman could “redeem” say his deceased brother’s wife to have children for his brother. Ruth’s mother-in-law was technically first in line to be redeemed by Boaz, but coached Ruth. Boaz redeemed Ruth and their child was Obed, the Father of David the King through which linage Jesus Christ through his Mother Mary, would descend and legally become the King of Judah.
The Book of Esther was written during a time in which the Jews were enslaved. References to the God of the Jews, His commandments etc. were prohibited and punishable by death. The entire book of Esther is an acrostic, like the ‘da Vinci Code,’ containing encrypted words and messages. God and references to Him are seen in understanding Aramaic and the first letters of words in the verse etc. which form words which reveal Him. Haman was promoted by the king to basically the chief steward as he held the kings signet ring. He wanted to destroy all the Jews and had permission to do so by the king. He was well on his way to completing this. The king was troubled in his sleep and called for a book of records. He wanted to know what honor had been bestowed upon Mordecai who had previously warned the king of those that wanted to harm or kill him. Mordecai had an open ear with Queen Esther, who several times referred to those enslaved as “my people.” None were a child of God until Jesus Christ took part of the flesh from his mother and the part from His Father God, and then those born again after the Day of Pentecost, 10 days after the day of ascension by Jesus Christ. Israel or the Jews were not children of God by birth, they were adopted. In the book of Esther, Jesus Christ or the Messiah was the Savior of God’s people and that is exactly what God accomplished and what Esther did, she saved God’s people from being destroyed. And through Esther, Mordecai assumed Haman’s position as chief steward and he held the king’s signet ring.
People fail to realize that the primary will of God is not always possible, because He cannot go beyond the mind or will of man or woman. Whenever a man cannot or will not rise up to lead, God will do whatever is possible to preserve order and His ultimate will, that all might be saved (made whole), and come to a knowledge of the Truth..
Sincerely,
Dahni
It was a woman that was deceived in the Garden of Eden. Adam knew what was wrong and did it anyway. Which sin is weaker? Neither was weaker, because both acts separated them from God. It was after this point that God set the order and Eve was to turn to Adam and Adam to God. Personally, I have been deceived and I have also, willfully done things wrong.
David the King had a man killed so that he could have his wife, Bathsheba. Bathsheba was the mother of Solomon the wise man who also, later became a mad man and brought back into Israel, the very things he once banished. But Solomon wrote of his mother Bathsheba in Proverbs 31. Bathsheba was a virtuous (strong in all ways), woman. She bought and sold property, managed her household and on and on. This proverb was not written because these qualities do not exist in women, but because they do and that every woman should aspire to excellence and virtue (strength in all points)! And every man should expect these qualities, seek to bring them out and honor them, married to them or not.
It was a young woman between the ages of 12-16 that said, “Be it unto me according to thy Word,” and she brought forth, the “promised seed.” It was primarily women that attended Jesus at his crucifixion when his own disciples were absent, except for John. It was women that attended the tomb to try and properly prepare his body for burial, but he had already risen. And it was a woman, the only one to believe in his resurrection and the first to see Jesus Christ in his resurrected body.
The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed. The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. The coming of the Messiah or Jesus Christ is the grand subject of the Bible and his attributes appear in every single book of the Bible. For example, he is the promised seed of the woman mentioned in the first book or Genesis. In the book of Ruth, He is the Kinsman Redeemer. Ruth was the daughter of an incestuous relationship. Lot’s daughters husbands were dead. They got their father drunk and slept with him to have children. Ruth was one of those results. Both she and her mother-in-law lost their husbands. By custom, a kinsman could “redeem” say his deceased brother’s wife to have children for his brother. Ruth’s mother-in-law was technically first in line to be redeemed by Boaz, but coached Ruth. Boaz redeemed Ruth and their child was Obed, the Father of David the King through which linage Jesus Christ through his Mother Mary, would descend and legally become the King of Judah.
The Book of Esther was written during a time in which the Jews were enslaved. References to the God of the Jews, His commandments etc. were prohibited and punishable by death. The entire book of Esther is an acrostic, like the ‘da Vinci Code,’ containing encrypted words and messages. God and references to Him are seen in understanding Aramaic and the first letters of words in the verse etc. which form words which reveal Him. Haman was promoted by the king to basically the chief steward as he held the kings signet ring. He wanted to destroy all the Jews and had permission to do so by the king. He was well on his way to completing this. The king was troubled in his sleep and called for a book of records. He wanted to know what honor had been bestowed upon Mordecai who had previously warned the king of those that wanted to harm or kill him. Mordecai had an open ear with Queen Esther, who several times referred to those enslaved as “my people.” None were a child of God until Jesus Christ took part of the flesh from his mother and the part from His Father God, and then those born again after the Day of Pentecost, 10 days after the day of ascension by Jesus Christ. Israel or the Jews were not children of God by birth, they were adopted. In the book of Esther, Jesus Christ or the Messiah was the Savior of God’s people and that is exactly what God accomplished and what Esther did, she saved God’s people from being destroyed. And through Esther, Mordecai assumed Haman’s position as chief steward and he held the king’s signet ring.
People fail to realize that the primary will of God is not always possible, because He cannot go beyond the mind or will of man or woman. Whenever a man cannot or will not rise up to lead, God will do whatever is possible to preserve order and His ultimate will, that all might be saved (made whole), and come to a knowledge of the Truth..
Sincerely,
Dahni
15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - July 16 · 0 replies · +1 points
Dear Jean, 1of 2
I am not in disagreement with you as to the proper order and arrangement according to the Bible, pertaining to relationships. Vertically, every man and woman is to be subjected to God (God first and all else later). Horizontally, it was His will that He be first to man, then man (husband), to woman (wife), the parent(s) to the children and in a kingdom, all were subject to the king or Queen if she were the ruling and principal monarch. The Nation of Israel was to be subjected to Moses through Aaron his spokesperson or prophet. In the New Testament Church, all were to be subjected to the ruling ministries given to the Church, apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists and teachers.
If the woman remained unmarried, she was either dedicated to service in the temple (subject to the priests), or she remained subject to her parents no matter her age. These are horizontal or governmental relationships for the sole purpose of order.
Your following words, “since women are the weaker vessel,” are biblically, mentally, emotionally and biologically inaccurate. The words “weaker vessel” with reference to women NEVER appears in the Bible. The only possible place this idea could have come from is in I Peter 3:7 “…as unto the weaker vessel.” In the first verse, to whom this is written, refers to “wives” and never once mentions those unmarried or single women. The words “as unto,” is not the same thing as saying that these women are weaker vessels, but their husbands were to honor their wives “as unto weaker vessels.” The reason they were to do this was for “as being heirs together of the grace of life.” The same reasoning applies here to the second “as.” A husband and wife are not rewarded in heaven for what they did in this life being a couple, but as individuals. The proper arrangement by mutual consent, enables them each to do this as they remain faithful to God and His Word.
There are many references to “vessels” in the Bible, comparing people to metal or some other earthen vessel. Rituals required many different types of vessels and were used for different things. Gold was a valuable vessel and even a lesser or “weaker” vessel used to cleanse ones behind, were necessary. There is a reference about bestowing more honors to those necessary vessels.
Part 2 to follow
Dahni
I am not in disagreement with you as to the proper order and arrangement according to the Bible, pertaining to relationships. Vertically, every man and woman is to be subjected to God (God first and all else later). Horizontally, it was His will that He be first to man, then man (husband), to woman (wife), the parent(s) to the children and in a kingdom, all were subject to the king or Queen if she were the ruling and principal monarch. The Nation of Israel was to be subjected to Moses through Aaron his spokesperson or prophet. In the New Testament Church, all were to be subjected to the ruling ministries given to the Church, apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists and teachers.
If the woman remained unmarried, she was either dedicated to service in the temple (subject to the priests), or she remained subject to her parents no matter her age. These are horizontal or governmental relationships for the sole purpose of order.
Your following words, “since women are the weaker vessel,” are biblically, mentally, emotionally and biologically inaccurate. The words “weaker vessel” with reference to women NEVER appears in the Bible. The only possible place this idea could have come from is in I Peter 3:7 “…as unto the weaker vessel.” In the first verse, to whom this is written, refers to “wives” and never once mentions those unmarried or single women. The words “as unto,” is not the same thing as saying that these women are weaker vessels, but their husbands were to honor their wives “as unto weaker vessels.” The reason they were to do this was for “as being heirs together of the grace of life.” The same reasoning applies here to the second “as.” A husband and wife are not rewarded in heaven for what they did in this life being a couple, but as individuals. The proper arrangement by mutual consent, enables them each to do this as they remain faithful to God and His Word.
There are many references to “vessels” in the Bible, comparing people to metal or some other earthen vessel. Rituals required many different types of vessels and were used for different things. Gold was a valuable vessel and even a lesser or “weaker” vessel used to cleanse ones behind, were necessary. There is a reference about bestowing more honors to those necessary vessels.
Part 2 to follow
Dahni
15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - July 16 · 3 replies · +2 points
Dear Jean,
In all of life there is either order or disorder (chaos). There is a natural order as 1 comes before 2 and so forth. Something has to be first, but it does not diminish the importance of the other numbers. Whenever two or more people are involved, there must be an order. Call it a government, but it is an order for the purpose of moving forward with a single purpose and despite all differences. Just imagine 56 people arguing. 56 people once did and from 13 colonies. Still they all came together with the president (John Hancock), and unanimously signed the Declaration of Independence. You are correct in noting that there are many differences between men and women, but to presuppose that one is more logical than the other is faulty, because you would have to understand ALL the variables for all people; for all time and from all situations. In logic there may be many premises prior to a conclusion. For example: John is logical and Mary is not. John is a man and Mary is a woman. A conclusion based on insufficient information such as not taking into consideration Nancy who as a woman is more logical than John, could be, since John is a man and logical, and Mary is not logical and a woman, therefore, men are more logical than women. This conclusion is wrong and the premise is wrong and therefore, it is an illogical statement. If one were looking to fill a position as a logician, which of the three would be the best choice? A correct and logical conclusion based upon a logical and a CORRECT premise would be: John is a male and logical. Mary is a female and illogical. Nancy is a female and more logical than John. Therefore, of the three, Nancy a woman, is the most logical of the three. As you noted, in the Bible, there was instituted a proper order for dealing with the affairs of people. The man was responsible for his wife and his family. It even refers to him as being "lord." But the man was to have a "lord" as well. Many cultures followed and still follow this 'order.' Unfortunately, this order is often corrupted by the often familiar phrase, "lording it over." The man was never intended to be and it was never implied that he was superior in any way to the woman. They were to be helpers together; joint helpers; co-equals, and two halves of "one flesh." As this started, when two or more people get together, someone has to be the leader. Biblically speaking, it was supposed to be the man. When and where men failed to lead and to preserve ORDER, many times, women came forward to preserve it. There are two books in the Bible so named for women, Ruth and Esther. There were many other women that served as queens, judges, prophets and in other functions which preserved and protected ORDER. It has nothing to do with logic, ability or any such thing and having a woman in such positions NEVER weakened the nation merely because she was not a man, but they (these women), often preserved the nation. And why is that? Because order was restored/preserved. Which do you think really and truly matters to God or to anyone else for that matter, if there were only three choices - man leads, woman leads or order is maintained? By the way, marriage is supposed to be, "a proper arrangement, by mutual consent." In other words, the couple is to decide what is best for their individual relationship. This is not any different than the whole idea of WE the People. WE decide what is best for each of us by working together for all of us. If one who leads is male or female or even a child, matters not. What matters is that it is all done decently, honestly and orderly. By the way, if there were no genetic weaknesses present in our DNA, a woman's overall strength measured at her hips and pelvis area, is stronger than a man's overall and total strength. With the same genetic measure applied to the mental capacity, to handle multiple things without overlap and confusion and to handle pressure, a woman is made this way. Though a man may by nature be single-minded or focused, it is NOT our single domain. WE are made differently to be made whole. This order, by proper arrangement and mutual consent is to teach, show, share and support the individual for the collective benefit of ALL. 1 of WE. Dahni
In all of life there is either order or disorder (chaos). There is a natural order as 1 comes before 2 and so forth. Something has to be first, but it does not diminish the importance of the other numbers. Whenever two or more people are involved, there must be an order. Call it a government, but it is an order for the purpose of moving forward with a single purpose and despite all differences. Just imagine 56 people arguing. 56 people once did and from 13 colonies. Still they all came together with the president (John Hancock), and unanimously signed the Declaration of Independence. You are correct in noting that there are many differences between men and women, but to presuppose that one is more logical than the other is faulty, because you would have to understand ALL the variables for all people; for all time and from all situations. In logic there may be many premises prior to a conclusion. For example: John is logical and Mary is not. John is a man and Mary is a woman. A conclusion based on insufficient information such as not taking into consideration Nancy who as a woman is more logical than John, could be, since John is a man and logical, and Mary is not logical and a woman, therefore, men are more logical than women. This conclusion is wrong and the premise is wrong and therefore, it is an illogical statement. If one were looking to fill a position as a logician, which of the three would be the best choice? A correct and logical conclusion based upon a logical and a CORRECT premise would be: John is a male and logical. Mary is a female and illogical. Nancy is a female and more logical than John. Therefore, of the three, Nancy a woman, is the most logical of the three. As you noted, in the Bible, there was instituted a proper order for dealing with the affairs of people. The man was responsible for his wife and his family. It even refers to him as being "lord." But the man was to have a "lord" as well. Many cultures followed and still follow this 'order.' Unfortunately, this order is often corrupted by the often familiar phrase, "lording it over." The man was never intended to be and it was never implied that he was superior in any way to the woman. They were to be helpers together; joint helpers; co-equals, and two halves of "one flesh." As this started, when two or more people get together, someone has to be the leader. Biblically speaking, it was supposed to be the man. When and where men failed to lead and to preserve ORDER, many times, women came forward to preserve it. There are two books in the Bible so named for women, Ruth and Esther. There were many other women that served as queens, judges, prophets and in other functions which preserved and protected ORDER. It has nothing to do with logic, ability or any such thing and having a woman in such positions NEVER weakened the nation merely because she was not a man, but they (these women), often preserved the nation. And why is that? Because order was restored/preserved. Which do you think really and truly matters to God or to anyone else for that matter, if there were only three choices - man leads, woman leads or order is maintained? By the way, marriage is supposed to be, "a proper arrangement, by mutual consent." In other words, the couple is to decide what is best for their individual relationship. This is not any different than the whole idea of WE the People. WE decide what is best for each of us by working together for all of us. If one who leads is male or female or even a child, matters not. What matters is that it is all done decently, honestly and orderly. By the way, if there were no genetic weaknesses present in our DNA, a woman's overall strength measured at her hips and pelvis area, is stronger than a man's overall and total strength. With the same genetic measure applied to the mental capacity, to handle multiple things without overlap and confusion and to handle pressure, a woman is made this way. Though a man may by nature be single-minded or focused, it is NOT our single domain. WE are made differently to be made whole. This order, by proper arrangement and mutual consent is to teach, show, share and support the individual for the collective benefit of ALL. 1 of WE. Dahni
15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - July 16 · 0 replies · +2 points
WE the People
15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - July 16 · 0 replies · +1 points
You are absolutely correct. When and where WE spin off in so many directions, causes, opinions and in essence - all me/myself and i, WE the People remain divided. 13 colonies, 56 signers and only about 10-13 % of the population decided UNANIMOUSLY and declared that they had had enough, over 200 years ago. It can still happen today, IF WE the people decide to make it happen.
15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Vent - 6/22 · 0 replies · +1 points
15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Tea Parties · 0 replies · +1 points
PS My wife and I don't always agree, but we somehow move together anyway.
15 years ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - Tea Parties · 1 reply · +1 points
Let us not forget the purpose of the 9/12 Project - which is to unite us. In reading many posts, many are still divided. Sure we are pissed, concerned and worried about both the present and the future, but take care of the present and tomorrow will take care of itself. What can WE do for WE today?
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