Is Fukushima About To Blow? Comments

Aus

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 01:32:25 +0000

How aweful, it seems to me this rosey picture we keep painting ourselves of a better future where man will use his creativity to improve himself seems very bleak now. I see a future where this ideal man has a higher rate of cancer, cardiovascular disease, diabetes caused by a corporate diet of refined carbohydrates, chemically 'enhanced', genetically modified 'foods'. This man is hearing and vision impaired from iPods, TV and internet. He is overweight, bald, stressed, addicted to caffeine and dehumanized by the inhumane regime of work and the shallow, meaningless, soul destroying cycles of consumption and alientation. Now we have nuclear power making this world an even worse place with radiological poisons being spread far and wide, contaminating everything, yet we look to these priests of science who have faith in 'safe exposure' levels of radiation. Yet how aweful and tragic the reality is when you look at places like Pripyat, rendered sterile and dead by radiological contamination, it's like a daunting look into the future. I'd hate to think of all of Fukushima as Pripyat, yet the reality seems to be that in time the whole area will indeed become just that. The next question I have to ask is who's going to be next? Then who after that? Will we just let the nuclear industry kill us all and render this earth a desolated death star? This foolish idea we had since the Enlightenment of 'progess' has resulted in the earth destroying insanity we now regard as modern, civlized, western culture.

thirdworlder

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:18:42 +0000

There was mention of a 15mile shift of Japan into the Pacific Ocean at the onset of the first quake on march 11th Does anyone know if the march 28th quake to the Northeast Japan was a kinetic correction to this or were these mutually exclusive events. Also shouldn’t people be more concerned about the time line between these two quakes, so that instead of all focus being on Fukushima all other plants along fault lines should be “somewhat secured “pronto? I mean, should a correction on the tectonic plates occur soon. Anyways we are all just sitting ducks!!! Or just lemming marching straight for the cliff!! Thanks Ex Pat for putting together all that info seeing as all these has been put on the back burner. I haven’t read about any consultations going on to involve people that worked Chernobyl or Third Mile Island. Well I am sure they will get to it, when they get to it …maybe someday if only to compare notes. Yeah, plus I know this thing will be with us for a long while…till the next one, of course.

pedro

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:10:36 +0000

Regarding this incident, I have been following reader's comments on a number of channels. In general the "What-are-you-worried-about?" crowd has been retreating quite rapidly since the middle of last week. The obvious solution to our energy problem is conservation. Why do people in L.A. buy the same cars that are absolutely necessary in Alaska and the mid-west? That is our one-size-fits-all perception, as in a Federal Highway system, centralized manufacture, etc. 90% of cars in L.A. should weigh a couple of hundred pounds. Get the big trucks off the roads with rail systems. Rome did not allow drayage in daylight hours. It was a pedestrian city by day, an industrial road system at night. Imagine rush hour in L.A. without big trucks, and smaller cars for personal transportation. An eight lane freeway could be a 12 lane freeway without pouring a yard of concrete. Build the vehicles in L.A. for L.A. Rent a SUV foe your family's two week camping trip. ETC. Heat wells.

Ex Pat

Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:08:43 +0000

FOUND But unfortunately the JS comment system doesn't want you to see it. Or the link apparently. Your comment must be approved by the site admins before it will appear publicly. x 8 ! Google pdf + title - Someone in Deutchland is your friend. 349p pdf. ; )

Enjoy

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:48:44 +0000

wow, tons of miss information.... well enjoy being wrong. Not even worth the effort to try and correct.

humanbeing

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:59:49 +0000

The good news is that if everyone dies from the radiation, we won't need energy sources any more.

Nunya Bizness

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:36:30 +0000

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Follow the Facts

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:37:32 +0000

...this is all very unfortunate...let's burn more oil and construct more coal burning facilities...gotta have electricity... ...why can't they turn all stupid gyms into power generating facilities...? – ...people go there to "work out" so why not make them "work out" some real juice in the process...? – ...see...? – ...another great idea...."People Power" – ..what's not to like...?

guest

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:36:09 +0000

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?L... http://www.youtube.com/user/WheepingWillow2#p/f/2...

Protonius

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:16:11 +0000

Shouldn't NOW -- or. actually, YESTERDAY -- be the time when all the major "world powers", perhaps acting via NATO, for example, rapidly design and institute a MASSIVE, JOINT, OPERATION to "bomb the Hell" out of the Fukushima nuclear plants, NOT quite with conventional explosive bombs but with "bombs" of DRY ICE, CEMENT, SALT, LEAD, and WHATEVER ELSE THAT COULD COOL AND FOREVER SEAL-OFF those radiation-spewing plants?

joebanana

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:08:28 +0000

Obombers track record of pathological lying speaks for itself. The man is incapable of telling the truth. Japan is still pissed about our nuking of them not long ago, can you say PAYBACK? Yeah sure they're going to say everything's peachy, what are we gonna do, sue them if they "miscalculated"? Just what is a SAFE level of nuclear radiation? I like the part about how the sea life in the area won't be effected, can you say "glow in the dark sushi"? It's all bull siht.

r_i_d

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:56:38 +0000

We know our leaders lie about so many things (e.g. what happened on 9/11), yet we let them directly or indirectly in charge of extremely dangerous things such as nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons. We are insane. I suppose we have been insane from the early beginning, but thousands of years of technological development has given us tools which we don't have the wisdom to use properly or to reject.

RICHARD_R_ROEHL

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:31:40 +0000

According to right-$winging propagan-duh pundits on toxic, talk-hate radio and tell-lie-vision, nuclear technology is "safe and clean"... and is still "too cheap to meter." The $well paid propagandists also claim that Oswald shot Kennedy with an 'el cheapo' Italian rifle equipped with a worn out bolt and a faulty scope. Mean, mean, meanwhile... the U.$. is (supposed-lie) still $earching for 'Osama Been Forgotten'... and WMDs in a Iraq-nam.

Dennis M

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:26:46 +0000

Humans are like children playing with petrol and matches. They don't think or don't want to think about the danger. Chenobyl gave us the evidence that nuclear power was dangerous. Did we heed the warning? Of course not. We're humans! Where there's a buck to be made... What do we do now? Kiss your children good night, every night! My recent post A Thing Of Beauty Or Of Evil

Harvey Reading

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:19:53 +0000

Don't worry. It's all good. I just learned that from our beloved corporate media, which includes the craven NPR/PBS conglomerate of corporate donations. Screw them all.

James

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 20:04:36 +0000

Just wait, in a few months Japan will essentially be a dead country, or at least less populated. There is no way a population that close to a leaking nuclear plant can survive that level of exposure. The 3 ways you can protect yourself from nuclear exposure are time, distance, and shielding. The time element will get worse the longer the populations in close exposure for a short period of exposure. They can't really put any distance between the population and the nuclear source unless they all leave Japan, and finally shielding, I don't see any attempts being made to protect to workers of the plants or the populations. Telling the locals to stay in their homes isn't going to protect them, it will be like being under house arrest. The longer they stay in their homes, unless forced to do so, the likelihood of the people getting angry and saying the hell with it and going out anyways. The rest of the World, especially the U.S. is betting on Japan being up and running just as it was before the disaster, and producing the products that the World wants. This is a dream that won't happen anytime soon, maybe even years.

fjgajewski

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:56:56 +0000

Interesting in light of what "Our Lady of Akita" said in the 1970s.

Ex Pat

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:44:01 +0000

Independent -- non-government -- radiation safety information and advice - Risk model from European Comittee on Radiation Risk - Radiation is _six_hundred_times_ more dangerous than the nuclear industry shill version. _And_ it accurately reflects actual cancer rates after Chernobyl. - - Low Level Radiation Campaign - found via UK Media Lens recommendation - - http://www.llrc.org/ Beyond Nuclear - Had link to Alexey Yablokov C-SPAN Chernoby 25th anniversary news conference. - http://www.beyondnuclear.org/ Radiation Network - monitoring the US - gamma radiation. Watch for thirty to fifty percent increase in radiation levels during rain. (Observed). - http://www.radiationnetwork.com/ Nuclear Information and Resource Information - - http://www.nirs.org/ Nuke Free .org - - http://www.nukefree.org/ If You Love This Planet - Dr. Helen Caldicott radio program - Australia - - http://ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=3043 Dr. Helen Caldicott - http://www.helencaldicott.com/ Physicians for Social Responsibility - http://www.psr.org/ Ghost Town - Are you afraid of Chernobyl's (one million) ghosts? NO? You will be! "Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. But soon and for the rest of your life!" Casablanca. - - http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chernobyl-revisited/ch... Karl Grossman - Envirovideo - - http://www.envirovideo.com/ Harvey Wasserman, Karl Grossman, Helen Caldicott - See Flashpoints - Flashpoints - found via KPFA - - http://www.flashpoints.net/ KPFA - Flashpoints Archive link - - feed://www.kpfa.org/podcast/pod.php?show=flashpoints Shaun Burnie - one man nuclear industry demolition army - "The Japanese have been mounting quite an effective perception management campaign. Not crisis management. Not work on the problem. Perception management." Paraphrased - Found via RT - - http://rt.com/news/japan-fukushima-reactor-evacua... - http://rt.com/search/?q=shaun+Burnie Search for Dr. Helen Caldicott - Her logic is utterly convincing. - TUC Radio - Newest Program - - http://www.tucradio.org/new.html From Maria Gilardin, who has found and interviewed every sane progressive and liberal since forever, including Peter Dale Scott, Dr. Helen Caldicott, Hermann Scheer, David Ray Griffin, Ray McGovern, Michael Parenti, Robert Fisk, on and on - TUC Radio - - http://www.tucradio.org/ Several links above found via UK Media Lens Messageboard - http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/ More under Reply

Ex Pat

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:04:53 +0000

LESSONS FROM CHERNOBYL - ALEXEY YABLOKOV Russian Academician / Soviet Academician. "Even more respected than the US (nearly entirely nuclear industry poodle) version." Stunning news conference. The first and last word on Chernobyl comes from the authors of the book on it. The suppressed book. What you don't know can _seriously_ damage the health of everyone living on earth! No, really !!! Got genetic mutations of billions of humans for at least seven generations? No? YOU WILL! "If you hear "there is danger, but it's not immediate," run away very far, immediately!" "On the US W. Coast the danger is from radioactive iodine. You can paint ordinary iodine on your skin." ( and it will be absorbed by the thyroid. To block uptake of radioactive iodine. In Russia this was some of the only treatment available. ? ) But does it work and, if so, how well does it work? "If you take it (potassium iodide?) 18 hours before exposure to radioactive iodine, it reduces the risk of thyroid cancer by thirty percent. If you wait until two days after exposure, then it reduces the risk by two percent." In reply to a question, "Did the Japanese government wait too long before issuing potassium iodide." A. Yes!. Q. US? A. So far 'You don't need it,' said the governing arm of the US Nuclear industry Military-Industrial-Congressional complex. And you trusted them. HA! "Russian cities were protected by seeding clouds with (silver?) iodide / cement / to precipitate rain and radiation." The Russians are incredibly practical / effective. There is a lot to be said for living under a system that is agreed to be entirely corrupt. Is Japan and the US as practical and effective and as aware that they too live in entirely corrupt system ??? No chance! Ralph Nader - 1959 stitch-up agreement between IAEA -- the nuclear industry PR outfit whose #1 job is to promote nuclear power -- and WHO. 'The WHO will ask IAEA's permission before commenting on any nuclear catastrophe / disaster / apocalypse / cock-up.' Oh great! Paraphrased. "There were a lot of deaths in the US from Chernobyl." (170,000 of the 1m total?) "Contaminated food products started arriving in the US after the Chernobyl disaster. Herring from Norway. Cheese from Germany. Dried fruit from Turkey." Some was destroyed. "It was all made secret." Wonderful. So because we didn't hear about it then, 'they' will try exactly the same wheeze again. No change there. US Mushrooms at the ready! "We have the same problems in Russia as you have in the US, with corporations." Amen! A (The?) leading Soviet Academician (now Russian) has been taking part in a protest of the WHO in Geneva. Now in its 204th week, over its suppression of the truth from Chernobyl. Namely the million deaths and the hundreds of millions of genetic injuries that will occur for the next seven generations. Who knew? ER, apologies for bad pun. "Forty percent of Europe is irradiated. I no longer eat European food." - Dr Helen Caldicott. "It is not reported. A form of psychic numbing." (? ER, OR a form of USUK MSM cover-up. No change there, then!) 'Alexy Yablokov Press Conference Today - Watch on C-SPAN' - March 25, 2011 - C-SPAN, via Beyond Nuclear - - http://www.beyondnuclear.org/home/2011/3/25/alexe... Direct - C-SPAN - - http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Chernob Found at Beyond Nuclear - http://www.beyondnuclear.org/ Previously - CHERNOBYL If it's like Chernobyl -- complete with lack of information and the public left to work out the story, after being thoroughly irradiated, by panicky western governments -- would it help to read a) Helen Caldicott and b) the Chernobyl report? - http://www.helencaldicott.com/ - Can anyone find a free-to-air (? ; ) ) pdf of this??? - - 'Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment,' by Alexey Yablokov, Vassily Nesterenko, and Alexey Nesterenko. - New York Academy of Sciences - - http://www.nyas.org/publications/annals/Detail.as... SO. We are now all Black Knights. Whether we want to be or not. Oh great! Thanks Neo-Con neoliberal economic New World Order! - "Come back you coward." - Monty Python's Black Knight _never_ gives up. - - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690 More under Reply

Ex Pat

Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:04:18 +0000

PROFESSOR CHRIS BUSBY 1. Daily Mail - Professor Chris Busby - "It's a catastrophe. You can get nuclear explosions. If there is an explosion (_or_ _explosions_!) it will put hundreds of tons of radioactivity into the atmosphere." Correct then. Still correct today - see 3. below. The dopes at the UK Reich-wing Daily Mail put out video with _no_ indication of who the speaker is. In this case he later turned out to be extremely important and extremely credible! The photos weren't bad, either. - 'Resilience: A man in a suit walks calmly through a scene of devastation in Sendai, Japan' - March 15, 2011 - UK Daily Mail - - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1366341/J... 2. FUKUSHIMA EXPLOSION(S) Professor Busby - "A nuclear explosion is a possibility. They're calling it a zirconium hydrogen explosion. It's by no means certain that this is the case, in fact, because we don't get to see in the top of the reactor. It's inconceivable to me that they haven't flown a helicopter over the top of the reactor so we can look down inside and see if what they are saying is actually true. So I have very big suspicions about this. And, incidentally, a great deal of radiation is coming out. ... What this means is that up to a hundred kilometers away we are getting concentrations of plutonium, caesium and iodine, just like Chernobyl. And it caused significant harm to the population I have to say." HA! Logical. Truthful. Accurate. Open. That's Busby off HMG's Christmas card list ... @ 2.40 That one video should tell you exactly what to expect when you hear the UK government line. Namely bugger all! - Professors Ian Fells and Chris Busby. One is a nuclear industry shill / spokes-droid who appears to think you need plutonium in your orange juice. The other is not. Clue - Vive la France! ; ) - - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhlgks_radiation... Found on Low Level Radiation Campaign - - http://www.llrc.org/indexpage.htm LATEST 3. 'Deconstructing Nuclear Experts,' by Professor Chris Busby - March 28, 2011 - Counterpunch - - http://www.counterpunch.org/busby03282011.html MORE INFORMATION Low Level Radiation Campaign - Chris Busby, Scientific Secretary, European Comittee on Radiation Risk - ECRR RISK MODEL In particular note their risk calculations for ingested Fukushima fallout, (alpha-particles mostly) based on gamma radiation readings. _Six_hundred_times_ greater. Which neatly explains the explosion of cancer rates after Chernobyl. And will again after Fukushima! Which is why you need to do the reading. No change there, then! - See '20th March 2011' - no direct link available - Low Level Radiation Campaign - - http://www.llrc.org/ So when you see the US. W. Coast background gamma radiation go up by thirty to fifty percent in rain, you can calculate the resulting cancers over fifty years. Depending on how long you think it will take the Japanese to put their entire Fukushima site in a concrete sarcophagus. (460 days? Wild guess. A. Because the Russians were lead by lions. Not the bureaucratic donkey's / nuclear industry satraps we get in the USUK and Japan. B. It's six, or seven times the job at Chernobyl!) Best comment so far department - "There is no [BOOM!] danger of a nuclear [BOOM!] meltdown.... Honest [BOOM!].Ctd p. 94. - UK Media Lens Messageboard is excellent. From Keith-264. - - http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/13001... More under Reply