en-us http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm Comments from A Proposal For Wellbeing Of The Entire Earth System http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment242673542Thanks TI... that's very kind of you to say, and thanks for the spread-around. I know you are a wise and warm-hearted human... not for agreeing with my words, but for understanding and saying what you have said. We know that folks like you and I don't do US vs THEM, because we know its all US... and we work(but not fight) to stop ALL the many us vs them warring happening amongst the US's... right? Very few people say good things about my writings and thinkings. Most call me names. You're very kind and I thank you again. You can see some of my more-scolding rants via googling "abolish economies". I';d love to read some of YOUR writings and thoughts... if you have some. Take good care! Larry Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:01:38 +0000http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment242673542 http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment242173845Wing nut....WOW!!!!!! That was excellent... I love that you brought out the cooperative Vs competive theme.... you put it out there so it's clear..... very well done....... and I love the article.... will pass this one around. Tue, 20 Dec 2011 00:42:33 +0000http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment242173845 http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment242134376This is the same as the UN's Agenda 21. Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:45:04 +0000http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment242134376 http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment242099876It is wonderful that ONE country and its leader are prepared to think and act reasonably, when we see the effects of most of the world's "economies" (no society or people matter, just "economies" and the ratings agencies.) Reading about NATO/USA/EU/IMF/WTO/World Bank we see no rational discussion, let alone action, on the genuine needs of people and the nature that supports them. Wars, threats, violence are seen as essential to survive and defeat "enemies" who can never be negotiated with or even talked to. Bravo, Evo, and perhaps the Occupiers can somehow join in the absolutely necessary saving of the planet earth. Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:59:19 +0000http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment242099876 http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment241903784Hi It looks to me like you're trying to put-out the many fires caused by capitalism and by using economies. Why not go after the fire STARTER itself? In my opinion, its the use of economies (money, ownership, price tags) that causes all the problems. Not one other living creature on the entire planet... uses economies. Why do capitalists? Are economies really needed? Are systems that promote competing... wanted/needed? Think about competitive systems as racing, for a moment, if you will. There's the old stale adage... "It takes money to make money". Now apply it to racing/competing systems such as capitalism/car racing. It takes a big motor... to win races. It takes winning races... to afford big motors. In other words, in capitalism and car racing, the folks who are good at racing... will always win at racing. The folks who are not good at racing, will rarely win. Now what if... the race was to see who could be the most cooperative (opposite of competitive). First off, cooperators HATE racing... and its against everything they stand for. I should know... I'm a proud cooperator... and I abhor racing. A big-dog cooperator is altruist. They/we always look out for the others' needs/wants FIRST, and always place themselves last. Cooperators want to make sure that everyone crosses the finish line at the same time... and often, before THEY do. That's fairness/love. Although cooperators never compete, IF they did, it would be a competition to see which could put forth more effort to help others cross the finish line ahead of them. In other words, cooperators might compete to see who could be the most cooperative. Love competing. Altruism (and Christianity/other love-based religions). So, when the USA and many other parts of the world... have decided that a competing/racing system is the proper way, then guess what. The folks who are best at racing/competing, will consistently be way out front. And since the folks with all these monetary and property winnings... are stern competers... they are unlikely to give away "their" (ownership) earnings to late finishers and to folks who hate/refuse racing... because that's not the way of a stern competer. In pyramid systems such as capitalism and even in playground pyramids (both always collapse and hurt those on the bottom)... the strife is to get a leg UP, not a leg down. Competer folks tend not to seek the nobility and pride of being a strong bottom-layer foundation member of a pyramid. They instead tend to seek the "heads in the clouds" monetary powers and luxuries of climbing high. And when many are racing to climb high, the tops of pyramids get top heavy, and put enormous excess strain on the bottom layer foundation people. The weight of the world's knees is on/in their backs, and they get crushed, and the racing pyramid collapses, just like capitalism's pyramid is doing. Wise mothers everywhere know that the kids should NEVER be allowed to build pyramids of people... its exploitive upon the strong foundation layers. Yet childhood pyramids are seen all the time, including in cheerleading... and rarely does a parent stand up and say STOP IT RIGHT NOW like we all know should be done. I've been anti-capitalism, and moreover, anti-economy-usage for over 20 years, and I have been saying STOP PYRAMIDING the whole time. The Columbian Freemason pyramid scheme symbol is right there on the back of the USA dollar, and the USA gov is located in a district of COLUMBIA and not even part of the USA proper. Its the USE of economies, that causes racing systems, and its the use of racing systems, that causes sure-to-collapse pyramiding. Its racing systems that are to blame, and economies (and luxuries/empowerments gotten there-from) are the devices which cause racing. The occupiers are grumbling about unfairness... but they don't know the reasons unfairness happens. I do. I have a better idea, and I know how to implement it. When the USA and world are ready, we can begin the short or long trip to make it happen. Best regards! Larry "Wingnut" Wendlandt MaStars - Mothers Against Stuff That Ain't Right (anti-capitalism-ists) (anti-economy usage) Bessemer MI USA Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:06:24 +0000http://www.countercurrents.org/pwcc191211.htm#IDComment241903784