Kal El, are you so bored that you can't find anything useful to do or do you just miss my presence on this worthless site? Why do I keep receiving recent e-mails of your replies from previous responses I have made? You reply to my statements that were intended for others, yet you cannot respond to my questions regarding the BASIC principles of Christianity? (Which by the way, I still await for any response.)

A convert to Christianity in Saudi Arabia is like any convert to Christianity in any other random country. Why are you surprised it cannot happen in a country like Saudi Arabia? Do you actually THINK that Saudi Arabia (the government) is following Islam? The country is based on absurd laws forced upon their own people. There's no true Islam practiced by the government, or any other useless government for that matter. If a corrupt government exists, there too will exist corrupt citizens. And if you can't get that through your head, then that's your problem.

I was actually amused when I read this part of the article:

"Apparently, Hamoud received Christ as his savior after reading how Jesus forgave, rather than stoned, a woman condemned for adultery."
[Interesting, even though the Bible commands death for adulterers]

This guy apparently didn't like being punished for his actions, so decides to turn to Christianity which allows all sinners to do as the wish simply because everything will all just be "forgiven". So if you're Christian, you can lie, steal, murder and rape all your life and be forgiven just as long as you believe in Jesus? Amazing how PEOPLE on earth can punish others for wrong actions but Jesus will not punish them and simply "forgive" all their sins. Talk about complete FREEDOM. Yeah, then I can DEFINITELY see why some people (ESPECIALLY those in Saudi Arabia whom are forced to abide by the laws of the government) would turn to Christianity.

Do you not EVER see the difference between those who convert to Islam and convert to Christianity? Those who have embraced Islam are finding ways to live according to God's orders. Those who have embraced Christianity are finding ways to live according to THEIR pleasure.
What's the first thing a non-Muslim does once they've embraced Islam? (Pray daily, give charity, fast)
What's the first thing a non-Christian does once they've embraced Christianity? (commit adultery, gamble, drink).
THAT'S the DIFFERENCE. (When you compare the examples, they're complete OPPOSITES)
So why are so many people reverting to Islam if they're required to have new duties and leave Christianity when it requires none? Freedom is more appealing to humans, yet BILLIONS (and many more to come) are choosing Islam.
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And as for Mohammad (peace be upon him), he was, is, and will be the greatest man that has ever walked across this earth; and NOTHING that you or any other idiot says will change that fact otherwise. And don't even just take it from me:

"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.

"He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope's pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports."
Bosworth Smith, MOHAMMAD AND MOHAMMADANISM, London, 1874, p. 92.

"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."
George Bernard Shaw, THE GENUINE ISLAM, Vol. 1, No. 81936.

"The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammed. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he? "
Lamartine, Historie de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol. 11 pp. 276-2727

"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated."
De Lacy O'Leary, ISLAM AT THE CROSSROADS, London, 1923, p. 8.

In last response to Beej, Kal El, and every other ignorant person:
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Kal El: "We are not here to refute any verses you spew from the Book of the Dumb aka the quran."

Really? I guess I'm just hallucinating all these "chosen" verses from the Quran on this site that you all "spew" on.

"The scores of muslims who wage jihad on infidels"

Stop being ignorant . There are terrorists in every religious group around the world. Islam is the religion, and Muslims are the people. Get over being anti Islam.

"That and the fact that when you do not get the answer you want"

Umm...the answers I want? The question should be rephrased to: What answers HAVE I gotten? And if you want to answer, by all means answer the questions I asked quagmire about Christianity, seeing as you do SO well in answering responses regarding Islam. So for you, these questions should be a breeze. And by the way, I never knew that questioning the beliefs of Christianity meant I was attacking the faith. If that's the case, then I can see why thousands of Christians are embracing Islam everyday.
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Beej: I have to hand it to you, for someone who is an educated trained scientist, I would not expect your views to be so illogical and so ignorant towards Islam. I have refuted your arguments, each time you asking me to answer a question or looking something up for you, with you not EVEN acknowledging my prior statements or evidence. But OK, I'll be the bigger person. Here's a single link LISTING ALL the TOP SCIENTISTS (whom CONVERTED to ISLAM), and their comments on the scientific facts (miracles) on the Quran:

http://talk.islamicnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=1...
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Oh, and I just HAD to add this:

"I wonder if you know of any Muslim female who might like to cross swords on this site. Her outlook would be fascinating."

KNOW any? I'm guessing you didn't realize that you're actually talking to one!

I have to hand it to ALL of you. I was in
HYSTERICS every time you referred to me as a "He". I was actually waiting for the right time to tell ALL of you, and now that I end my debates with you and abandon this worthless site, I thought now would be the PERFECT timing.

See, this actually PROVES that you ALL ASSUME things. You only ASSUMED that I was a male because you didn't THINK a female could debate like that, let alone take on a challenge. And even the name 'xkon' is not a reference to that of a male OR female for you to be confused.
I guess I shouldn't be telling you about my age either. I think I'll leave it like that. That's enough embarrassment for one day.

So what's to say that the other things that you also THINK are "facts" would also be WRONG? It's because of your IGNORANCE that you allow the media to do the thinking for you. You all insult Muslims and their faith but when a Muslims questions other beliefs than that is somehow "Unacceptable".

Do you think I was asking these questions on Christianity because I wanted to know the answers? I already KNOW the answers. The questions are there just for you to answer YOURSELVES. I was just curious in the replies.

The reason I refuted your debates well was because the information does not come from my own knowledge. That's the beauty of Islam. The knowledge is already given and all I had to do was simply use it.

So now that I leave you to ponder about all the things I questioned you on, and all the things I provided you answers and evidence with, you can choose to do as you all please. There's no shame in change. I'm only here to inform; the rest is truly up to you.

Oh and Quagmire, regarding question 4 as it sounds "you" may want evidence on that:

"Father, why hast thou forsaken me?" Matthew 27:46

Jesus (God) is calling out to his Father (i.e. himself) while being crucified by humans whom he (being the Father AND the Son) himself created.
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Ok, that's all I wanted to add. Keep telling yourself whatever you want. Whatever helps you sleep at night. And as of now my conversations/debates have ended with you.

I find it amusing that everyone here focuses on my grammatical/spelling errors when they should be refuting my arguments. It's like you only look for something like "grammatical mistakes" to correct me on. How about you make yourself useful and answer the questions that no one ever seems to want to respond to? I'm telling you Beej, even if you witnessed Angels you'd still be in denial. Anyways, my debates with most people have already finished. They prove not only to have ignorance towards Muslims, but no knowledge of their own beliefs. I already did my part; the rest is up to you. Have fun living the rest of your life without a purpose.

Really? Why don't you double check on that? And have we not had this discussion before? I posted you various of links on another post replying to you, giving you not only Atheists converting to Islam, but Atheist scientists converting to Islam. But you know what? I will provide it for you once more. And I'll provide you with the Non-Muslim Scientist's Comments on their discovery of scientific FACTS on the Quran. Here are Scientists, Atheists, Christians, Jews, Zionists, Hindus who all CONVERTED to Islam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IspK651RpY&fe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUPYs0gElU&fe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JW5x_GPsXc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0op5MIyG3Xg&fe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHuiFWYRAZM&fe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPhY8tuMvPc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZadQtDfW7E&fe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nicjAQiqojw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DabIO_gwRgo&fe...

Beej, the only failure I see is when one cannot refute their own beliefs. And of course you not being the brightest Atheists around does not help the fact that Quagmire (or any Christian for that matter) cannot answer these simple questions. But of course if you or anyone else thinks they can answer them, by ALL means go ahead.

Seeing as how you could not answer my questions to you on your OWN very beliefs, all your other "claims" are of course worthless. Quagmire, you know nothing. Just because the Bible has numerous versions, that doesn't mean you should go and try to make claims on the Quran that everyone knows otherwise. If you say the grass is blue, is anyone going to believe you? No, you're just going to embarrass yourself because you're replacing fiction with fact.
FACT: there is only ONE version of the Quran (meaning the SAME Arabic text, word FOR word) That is KNOWN, seeing that the Quran is the most recited most studied book on the planet. Knock on every Muslim's door and let me know if you find a SINGLE letter that is different.
TRANSLATION (meaning ANY other language besides Arabic) of the Quran will not be word for word, as the translation is NOT what is recited. In fact, NO Quran can have the translation alone WITHOUT the actual Arabic text. Translations are there just for you to understand what the verses mean.
And when you say there are different methods of "recitation" that has NOTHING to do with the version of the Quran changing. It just means the PRONUNCIATION is different.
To make this easier for you as I know you have complication in understanding, so for example taking the word 'potato'. The spelling and definition of that remains the SAME, but you can have people pronouncing it DIFFERENTLY. It doesn't matter if it's pronounced a little differently, just as long as that word still
remains the same in meaning and spelling. Do you now understand that RECITATION (i.e. PRONUNCIATION) has NOTHING to do with version of the Quran changing?
Don't bother trying to mess up with facts, because once again you're only going to embarrass yourself, such as you already did by being unable to answer for me a SINGLE question about YOUR own faith.
See how someone educated can so easily refute you? There's a reason why I always say to people, "Go educate yourselves."

Wow, I'm impressed with the imitation there quagmire. Though you're actually give me the impression that you're not CONVINCED with your beliefs. And by the way, when I said you couldn't "imitate" me, I of course didn't think that there would be an idiot who would take it literally. I meant imitate me in my ways of refuting arguments, which means that I am correct once again, because you could not "imitate" me in REFUTING arguments. And by you trying to "imitate" me by putting random phrases I refuted you with logic according to your own questions, actually makes you look more idiotic than you actually are.

Do you know why I asked you these questions? Because I KNEW you could NOT answer them. Why? I realized that of course just by observing at how you make statements to things that you actually pretend to have knowledge on, when you don't have a CLUE on what you're talking about. Another reason is because I actually asked just ONE of these questions to a Christian who studies at Church and even HE himself could not answer me. So of course someone such as yourself being unaware of anything at all, could not answer these "simple" questions. Don't worry, you don't have to answer them though. I already know you're not convinced in what you believe in (or at least after I asked you these questions).

So if anyone else here is convinced with their "teachings", and thinks they can answer the questions I asked quagmire who no doubt failed to answer them, please go ahead and enlighten me with your answers.
Oh, and quagmire, I'm done talking to you. You are P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C, and a big waste of my time.

"You have obviously ignored my posts in the Valentine's Day post."
Really? Why don't double check on that instead of making yourself look idiotic. You didn't even give me less than a DAY to reply to your post and you go around ASSUMING that I'm ignoring you or that I can't refute you. Do people have to reply to you the same second so you think that they're not "ignoring" you. Now THAT is quite PATHETIC.

"Can't refute the truth. "
I already did. Let's just see how you're going to refute the "truth" regarding to my questions for you about your belief.

"God would not have sent the angel Gabriel to Mecca to tell Muhammad that he, the living God, has no Son!"
Of course God would not send Angel Gabriel to Mecca to tell Mohammad that God had no Son. God sent Angel Gabriel to Mecca to tell Mohammad that he would be the next Messenger that would preach the same Message as that of the Messengers before him,( that being Moses and Jesus)

"God does not lie"
Of course God doesn't. That's why God sent Messengers for us to follow so that we would be guided.
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"Boo Hoo. Be careful everyone, do not imitate xkon"

Are you asking people to not imitate me in my ways of being able to frustrate everyone who cannot respond to me through logic and evidence? If that's the case, then they couldn't imitate me even if they tried. So in fact your statement seems more of a warning than an advice.

I find no difficulty in providing you the answers. And of course I will only prove you wrong once again. All I'm asking of you now is to use your brain as I explain.
You state: How, then, did a supposed "Muslim scholar of the Bible" as he describes himself, come to make such a blunder as to confuse the mother of Samuel with the mother of Mary?"

Why you mention this, brings about the question why do you bring up the "Mother of Samuel" when neither "Hannah" nor the name "Samuel" appear in the Quran. You obviously don't know how to make your point clear. The only thing that is known about Mary in the Quran is that she is the daughter of Imran and the mother of Jesus.

"The reason is that the Qur'an itself confuses the two women and, although it does not name Hannah"

Do you realize you just contradicted what YOU just said? You just stated that the Quran "confuses" two women, even though you agree that the Quran only mentions ONE woman (Mary). How can the Quran confuse TWO women if it only mentions ONE? It's not the Quran that doesn't make sense, it's you the doesn't.

"Furthermore it may well be asked why Mary is called the "sister of Aaron""

Another thing you obviously don't quite understand, is that in Islam people can be "brothers" and "sister" in FAITH and not only by blood. Both Christians and Muslims know that Mary of course was living her life very much as close to a Nun; as she is a virgin and only spent her life worshiping God in the temple. The verse [19:28] is in reference to what you're saying as "Aaron" being the brother of "Mary". What you are unaware of is that the Quran was actually not referring to Aaron the brother of Moses, but Aaron (a Priest if you want to call him) the one in CHARGE of the same temple that Mary was also in. Just like as now you have Priests in charge of a church and the nuns within it. Don't you refer to priests as "Father" and nuns as "Sisters". Does that mean you are RELATED to them by blood? You say it regarding to "family" in faith.
So the man in charge of the temple that Mary was in, had the name "Aaron". The Quran states Mary being "sister in faith" to Aaron, not by blood. Here is the verse:

Quran [19:28]--- "O descendant of Aaron (who was in charge of the temple and his offspring after him, and of them Mary who grew up in the temple, so she she is a sister in faith), your father was not a bad man, nor was your mother unchaste."

And let's just ASSUME that this Aaron was referred to as the brother of Moses. Even if he was, Mary would STILL be sister of Aaron in "Faith". So your claim that Imran is the father of Mary AND Aaron is WRONG. And I have already proven that to you providing you with all these examples.
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Now that you have made it obvious you're only trying to keep me busy by responding to you, why don't you EXPLAIN these things to me in according to your logic in Christianity.
Christians believe in the Trinity, claiming that God is the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost all in ONE. Of course if you claim that God is ONE, than there are NOT 3 separate Gods at different times. So for example the Father who could have been doing something, means that the Son is not doing something else, as the Son and Father are the same. Having said that, answer this for me:

1)If Jesus is the Son of God, does that make Jesus the Father, the Son, AND the God of Mary?
And If that's the case, why is Mary only considered a HUMAN woman and NOT a Goddess if she gave birth to a a GOD?
2) When Jesus (or God) was inside Mary's womb, WHO was controlling the Earth? (that being the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost being in Mary's womb as they are claimed to be ONE)
3) When Jesus died, did God (the Father) die or the Son of God die? (The only correct answer would have to be BOTH seeing as they are ONE. So if you choose one of them it means they are two separate Gods)
4) Why did Jesus cry out "Father, why hast thou forsaken me?" while being crucified if he is the "Father and Son" in ONE? And how could humans do INJUSTICE to a God (if God is the one that CREATED these humans?)
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These are just questions regarding your beliefs (not to mention the plenty of questions I have regarding the Bible). The questions may seem like a lot, but seeing as how you are a Christian with knowledge of your faith, to you these questions should be a piece of cake, right?
And I await for your answers.