And I totally agree with that statement. There are steps to go through before we break out the pitchforks. I will be the first one to admit that the first shot fired in the first revolution was over a 3% tax, and look at what we put up with today, but the fact of the matter is we have to exhaust all other avenues before we get ourselves into something that will be impossible to reverse. I am just as fed up and have been more than outraged by what I read every week in the news. We will know more by August or September of this year. It will either start to come together or it will all fall apart before the end of fiscal year 2009. Yeah yeah that sounds alarmist, but if what we have seen in just seven weeks continues, we are in for a heck of a ride real soon.

I, like you, have sent hundreds of letters, emails and faxes to my reps and others saying "hey, knock it off", and in return I get a form letter telling me its ok. That, to me is a kick in the rear by my reps.

You want to bring fear back into the government? Do you really want to see them freak out? Help organize 3 million + people to march on Washington. First you will have to convince those 3 million + that their freedom and liberty is more important than their ipods, lattes, jobs and so on. THAT is why things don't change. Yeah sure, a couple thousand might show up and that doesn't make an impact. A real impact will be made when they are overrun with shouting voices saying we want our country back. Look at how many "Patriot groups" are out there....and the same thing NO ONE TALKS TO ONE ANOTHER!!! There are plenty of people, just not all on the same page. THIS site, however, might be the answer. With 300,000+ members in just a couple weeks...this could be it.

I don't know if anyone has reported on this yet, I know I haven't heard anything on MSM, but have you read the various reports about SOS Clinton giving China Eminent Domain over U.S. property as collateral for the $$ we are borrowing? This, to me is the highest form of treason because it would allow for China to take entire cities or states if the USG defaults on its loans! Here is only one of the stories I found: http://www.blufftontoday.com/node/27498

Count me in as well.

try video.google.com and type in the "Obama Deception"

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Elliot,

Have you ever read American History? This country wouldn't be without those "guns" you seem to be so opposed to! The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution insures that the other Amendments to the Bill of Rights remain intact. There is a major difference between murder and killing. The correct Hebrew translation of "Thou shall not kill (Exodus 20:13) is "Thou shall not murder" - a different matter entirely than justifiable homicide during self defense. Numbers 35:16-29 explains the difference between killing and murder.

Further, you might be shocked to know that the police have NO LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE DUTY to protect ANY individual from criminals. If you are attacked in your home, and call 911 and the police get there too late, you cannot sue the police. See Hartzler v. San Jose, Warren v. DC. It is up to US to defend ourselves. This has been true before police and since.

I hope this answered your question.

Anarchy is not what we need. What we need is a government that knows its boundaries and knows that if they step out of line that they will answer to the people one way or the other.

Like the guy calling himself Thomas Paine said in the YouTube video, there needs to be a 3,000,000 man march on D.C. (District of Criminals) and have a massive turnout to surround the Capitol and shut the government down for a day. If we get in their faces and show them that we are fed up and not going to take it anymore, they are more apt to listening to us, because the phone calls and the tea bags in envelopes aren't working. This is OUR country! They MUST do what WE THE PEOPLE say PERIOD! It is NOT up for discussion or clarification. The problem is, many Americans are just now waking up and there are millions more that are still complacent with their rose colored glasses on. Freedom is NEVER free and as an American, a part of your duty is to fight for that freedom we enjoy EVERY SINGLE DAY, because the day you stop or take a break, the idiots in D.C. start up the usurping machine yet again. They have their agenda and no matter what we do , they will ALWAYS try to push through that agenda in the hopes that they do not get caught. It is up to YOU and ME to put a stop to them.

I urge anyone to read Federalist Papers no. 28, paragraph 6, to see what Hamilton wrote on how to deal with those leaders who betray the constituents.

Here is my two cents in reference to the conversation. This is a list of items that well exceeded 9 pages when I originally wrote a "Re-Declaration of Independence" last year. This is just a short excerpt from that writing.

In the original Declaration of Independence there were 27 grievances that Thomas Jefferson wrote that made it to the final draft of the Declaration of Independence when he was writing his redress of grievances to King George III. Eleven of those original grievances stand today and are valid with our current Congress, President and entire Government. The following is the list from the original Declaration that we have found to be valid today:

1. He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

2. He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

3. He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

4. He has endeavored to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners.

5. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

6. For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments.

7. For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

8. For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent.

9. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

10. He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the [Mexicans] whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

11. In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

The time for replacing the abusive, unconstitutional ruling class with future abusers who may try, yet will succumb to the machinations of the Federal government has passed. In 1994 an entire class of reformers went to Washington D.C. to implement the Contract With America and restore our Constitutional Republic by returning power back to the States and the People respectively. They failed.

I agree with 95% of what you said in your post. If you want to set up a list of grievances, then I would start with the original Declaration of Independence, because I have found 14 out of the original 27 in that document alone that the government is violating right now.