Well, I appreciate the optimism BB, even if I have none left.

- localBuff

Things I'm still wondering about 2 (or 3) days later....

- I'm wondering if Shay Fields has a brain
- I'm wondering if Kenneth Crawley has a heart
- I'm wondering if Sean Irwin has...courage? No, eyesight!! As in, I'm a punt protector, and there's a punt blocker running right towards me, but apparently, I don't see him. (or perhaps he's more "Shay Fields-like" and just thought he was supposed to let that guy run right by without touching him!?)
- I'm wondering if Addison Gilliam is the one-year, freshmen wonder that he most certainly appears to be at this point.
- I'm wondering - despite mentions of improved depth - why no one on this team ever gets benched for poor play and/or stupid plays that cost us the game (see PR Fields, Shay).
- I'm wondering (not really actually) if this team will ever win with Sefo Liufau at QB
- I'm wondering why we brought in Jim Leavitt to liven up the defense, and then he just stands there all game like some disinterested outside observer not talking to anyone - about as engaged as a security guard on the sidelines!
- I'm wondering if the coaching staff ever thought this team of mostly experienced players could ever lay such an egg. It was almost as if they had not practiced at all since last December.
- I'm wondering how many recruits are de-committing or crossing CU off their list already.
- I'm wondering if Hawaii will win another game this year (my guess = No, and Norm Chow is fired)
- I'm wondering if Mike McIntyre is already starting to try and figure out where his next coaching stint is at.
- And finally, I'm wondering now how long it will be before CU has a winning football program...because it's going to have to undergo further changes from the current group in order to have the chance to do so.

- localBuff

This is all fine and good but is any of this camaraderie and weightlifting going to help the Buffs figure out how to run an offensive set and/or hit an outside shot? Which were clearly their two biggest problems last year.

What's a fail is DC not posting my comment from yesterday. WTF!??

Wow - I am rather shocked at the reaction to this article. I am not a big Kyle Ringo fan, nor a detractor. He mostly just reports news rather than opinion pieces (or as far as I know = I don't read the Camera much, but do come to this website a fair amount to get Buff news).

Basically, while the last paragraph rang a little thin for me, for the most part this article seems fine to me.

You guys can defend 'Ski all you want but the fact is true = he has tarnished his legacy via this odd decision. Now, maybe he didn't really have that much of a legacy to tarnish, and maybe no one will remember this in a few years based on our current society (especially with sports news).

But, I am CU alum ('91), will always be a life-long Buff fan and supporter, and I won't be forgetting this (at least until I'm forgetting everything that is). I'm not saying I'm wholly disappointed by this move and/or have a negative opinion about Askia Booker, or his career here (I don't), but this just doesn't make any real sense, so good luck Plati trying to spin it so it does.

By the same general rationale here = any Senior who's football team is going to a bowl game between two 6-6 teams should just hang it up after the last regular season game because they are a) "banged up", and b) "the younger guys need the experience". Hey - it all makes sense right guys? Then how come nobody, ever, in either sport has ever done this before - eh?

- LocalBuff

Who is Josh Scott?

VKB - So, you're whining along with us? Or, unlike anyone else who follows college basketball, you looked at this team/roster pre-season and deduced that this wasn't a very good basketball team?

Chiding the commenters on here makes no sense VKB - this team has underachieved to date, perhaps more so than any other team in the country based on pre-season rankings - and the CU fans are understandably disappointed in that, and hence are here stating that disappointment on this message board, It's a reaction that's quite common and makes perfect sense - no?

EP - I concur about the 3-pointer in college basketball (and at CU). I don't know if the solution is moving the line back, but there are way too many college teams whose only real game plan is just to hoist 3's and hope they have a hot shooting night - that's taking away from a good part of the game/strategy of basketball.

With CU - definitely frustrating that we don't have a true marksman - Blair Wilson anyone? Surprisingly, CU ranks in the top half of college basketball in team 3-pt shooting % (and well ahead of Hawaii, which is astounding if you watched yesterday's game).

Finally, 'Dom'?...Collier is getting a nickname already? He's only scored 23 points in his entire career and he's already a household name = "Dom"? How do we know he doesn't go by 'Nic? (way cooler!)

Well said bb. This has been such a disappointing season based on the talent and experience we supposedly had coming into the year. The fact is, we've seen most of these guys play better last year individually, and as a collective group - and now they look like it's the first season they've all ever played together (still trying to figure out each others roles, etc.), Makes no sense, and you have to look at the coaches when you're scratching your head over what is wrong with this team.

One other issue = recruiting. We obviously have not recruited enough true point guards over the past 3 years. We have a lot of guys that can handle the ball to some degree, but when the game gets close at the end, we turn it over because nobody is a natural point guard - whose primary skills are to get the ball up court and set the offense (except for perhaps Collier, who is very inexperienced anyway).

Not to mention he's shooting 14% from the Free throw line! Does this guy need his vision checked?