Every year around October for the past few years I've made it my tradition to read LOTR. It's my way of annually meeting up with a dear old friend. Thank you, Mr Glin for sharing your passion for Tolkien with the rest of us.
Reading about the plot of Never Let Me Go made me think of 1984, and I think most of us know how that story turns out. What these SF stories typically portray is a world where God's grace does not exist. To an an unbeliever these premises of a world where grace and mercy do not exist seem like very real possibilities but as believers we know that where evil abounds His grace abounds even greater which makes these stories of quiet acceptance repugnant and silly.
Yes, Jesus stood up to RELIGIOUS LEADERS, not GOVERNMENT LEADERS. BIG BIG difference.
Let me fill you in on something. I am mad as hell at what our government is and has been doing! I stood front and center at my local Tea Party. I called my congressperson before the Stimulus and Obamacare votes and demanded he vote NO! I vote and I take a stand when and where I can against the insidious socialism that is creeping into our society. What I don't do is invoke the name of Jesus when I am on a political campaign. Why? Because unfortunately we live in a secular society and to use His precious name to make a political point gets you NO WHERE and I firmly believe that it only does harm to the Body. If you can't understand that and want to go on and call me a "troll" and a non-Christian go right ahead. Sticks and stones etc...I also believe you CAN be a devoted disciple of Jesus and choose not to engage in politics. It is just that simple but if you cannot agree with that point then we will just have to agree to disagree and I guess we'll find out in the next life which one of us was right. Amen!
Are you drunk? First of all, this debate is about 4 days old so GET A LIFE! Second, lindava had commented that instead of "love" she was going to be sure she had a shotgun therefore I took that to mean she was purporting the use of force. In my other comments I was dialoguing directly with Common_Man and my comments were directed at that discussion only. Cheer up! It only goes downhill from here but Jesus is coming back!
You know what? I'm really sorry I began this argument. I believe like all earthly things that politics can make it way too easy to lose sight of the things that really matter. I've seen Christian brothers and sisters about come to blows because of political differences and it breaks my heart. These are not salvation issues so why do we allow them to divide us? The argument in a previous thread that made me sick was some guy claiming that if you aren't slugging it out with the liberals then you aren't a Christian at all and he has a lot of people here agreeing with him!
I agree 100% that it is right to take a stand against the people in power that are wrecking this great country. Just leave the name of Jesus out of it. I also agree that if a Christian chooses to stay out of politics and instead puts their energies into reaching the world for Jesus one person at a time that doesn't make them any less of a Christian.
Not a mind reader, didn't know you meant self defense when you wrote that you're keeping the shotgun in lieu of fighting with "love" to win people. I was employing sarcasm to make my point about Jesus, albeit inartfully. I'm all about showing the love. I'll leave the down and dirty political fights to the rest of you. Cheers!
Ditto to everything you just wrote. You could have saved me about 3,000 words if you had only stated this at the outset but it's been great practice honing my arguments. Thanks brother!
I would suggest you read Thomas Middleton's thread which is directly below this one. Last time I checked he had 6 thumbs up and as a Christian I find that very disturbing. This world is too temporary and this life we are given too short to spend it arguing over the things that don't last. If you want to wave the banner of Christ while fighting in the political arena then by Jove have at it! There is no one to stop you. Enjoy your evening.
Is this the only comment thread you've read and commented on? You're missing out buddy! The overall tone I'm detecting in most of these comment threads is that liberals are the enemy and that we must as Christians ("waving the banner of Christ") go to battle with them in the public arena. This is the argument I've been addressing in my posts today. Once again, by ALL means debate and fight for what is right and true but when it comes to the public arena, we should leave the name Jesus out of our political debates.
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