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15 years ago @ DoD Buzz - EADS Unlikely to Prote... · 0 replies · +3 points

I don't think the US has the high ground on 'protectionism'__Example why would we{Australia let you have the blueprints for the new ship class your making...guess the one, AUSTRAL designed it }, You see it is called ally sharing, __You do need allies these days don't you. Why should we have bought Super Hornets, and not gone for a pile of Gripens. __And this is no shot at Boeing either, as both companies in the Tanker Program are in a tough spot at present

16 years ago @ DoD Buzz - Pray For NG Tanker Or ... · 0 replies · +2 points

William C has the point here, it cannot all be UAV's and Satelittes etc, you need men on the ground, tanks, APC's and other new weapons systems which by the way the allies and US are making good use of in the Ghan, the Liberal tossers in the press of course says we are loosing there, my mates coming back from each tour say otherwise.

16 years ago @ DoD Buzz - Pray For NG Tanker Or ... · 0 replies · +2 points

Everyone else is buying and we in Australia bought the 1st EADS Tanker, transporter Multi-role, with Probe and hose and probe, it makes sens for the US to build the factory and make them there. Hell trying to keep the C-17 , Galaxy, and even Herky fleets going is going to need this wonderful plane, but it seems if it does not have a Boeing stamp or made inthe USA then do not but it, {give back the Harrier and Goshawk as well as the Lokum helo and C-27 while your at it.
Hell politics,,,,no one is better:-}

16 years ago @ DoD Buzz - US Guards JSF Crown Je... · 0 replies · +2 points

part 6
Britain only several years ago was finally able to pay off LEND LEASE from World War 2, that tiny Island had to pay back every dammcent to the US..how would you feel with the size of your poulation then being up against it and having that caveat on your head
, and Russia never bothered,to pay the massive Lend Lease to them did it!
UK { I am an Aussie} had land , banks, and funds that wer emade forfiet to the USA. , They lost everything they owned inthe US
So do not have a shot at a country that was fighting from the start of the War {WW1} to the finish, and also from 1939 to 45 {not 42-45 as the US did} All our nations were hurt, but that is what it took to finish it off, even the Germans who had surendered said arm us and we will fight the Russians {not a bad idea at the time}, as my Grandfather fought in 1919 against the Revolution in Russia after WW1
back to the topic
JSF...a waiting game, and be brave buy the EADS Tanker and stop the Boeing crap

16 years ago @ DoD Buzz - US Guards JSF Crown Je... · 0 replies · +2 points

Part 5
Now off track a bit BUT::::::: read below and study your Mil history

Lets see who wrote "we lots Millions in World War 1" careful with your history, you entered the War late , the first battle you fought was green US troops being trained by Aussies, and getting ready They were doing fine both Army US/OZ getting on well
, Pershing wanting self control over his men {not so bad as Australia finally got it after inept Brit Generals caused mayhem} the US fought alongside Australians 1s,t at the Battle of Le Hamel and did ok, it was planned for 90 mins it went 93, and was planned as the first use of Inf/tank and Artillery combined at once, with airl resuply too I might add. It became to blueprint for all future battels against braking the Hindenburg Line

16 years ago @ DoD Buzz - US Guards JSF Crown Je... · 0 replies · +1 points

Part 3
The Brit Govt has justdone a hachet job on 7 Sqns in the RAF only to give 2 Typhoon Sqns back and are closing bases galore, they are broke {Blair and the rest of the socialist morons}, The Navy was toget 2 carriers for the JSF, now 1 , the other will be a Helo carrier saving them some billions, they cannot afford the new Astute Subs or Type 45 frigates..they are in a jam, but they ARE YOU ALLIES!!!

Israel has put more systems into Chinese, Pakistani, Indian waeponry than I know of , are they the No 1 ally of the US.

16 years ago @ DoD Buzz - US Guards JSF Crown Je... · 0 replies · +2 points

PART 2
Global Hawk was 1/3rd OZ input {electronics} . Now think about this, the JSF has a worldwide Network system that can help any JSF anywhere with a problem and send a fix, but it still needs the codes to do major work,
Imagine sending a JSF {or 2-3 a} all the way back to the US for a 1 day fix from 11-000 miles. Trust is key, allies are allies. Yes I can understand EU, they screw with our commodities on the open market as well as they do you, but even they have seen the light on Mil matters no matter a semi socailist Govt or a right wing one.
.Australia always wanted the updated F-111 to keep going, hell no other plane flying can still do its mission, Super Hornet with latest gen systems are a good fix with some F-22's in there, but the JSF has been a bit of a "plnker' for years, though many great innovations have come from building it. Harrier, A-10 were all going to go..I do not see that happening in the near future can you?

16 years ago @ DoD Buzz - US Guards JSF Crown Je... · 0 replies · +2 points

Well listen guys I understand the paranoia this will create with some, but Australia as well has had those codes for some time, we do "a fair bit of work" on the JSF. Australia is one of the USA 's most trusted allies and would have gotten some F-22's if Obama had not vetoed it. Why, the sea lanes here, proximity to SEA/China etc, there are massive bases set in Australia {and Area 51-1/2 is here at a place called Woomera Rocket Range} up for Marine Divisions with all the gear in place, they arrive the stuff is here, we run the Elint , Sigint here for the US as well as the important comms for the BOOMER fleet.

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