i believe that in a civil society there is room and an essential need for healthy debate. this debate should not descend to the level of personal attacks. calling me a liar, a fool, blind, enemy and naive goes beyond the pale of civil discourse. fellow conservatives such as george w. bush, colin powell, condelessa rice, rudy guliani and john mccain who i suspectmany associated with front page magazine would not consider real conservatives wouldnever stoop to such a level of personal hate and vindictiveness. i doubt that i will ever contribute another comment to front page magazine. this will probably please most of you but it saddens me. bob maram