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16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Wireless VOIP News... · 2 replies · +1 points

I like to use the analogy of what the digital camera did to the chemical film development industry in just a few short years to illustrate the magnitude of what's about to happen in the inter exchange carrier marketplace.

Even Kodak, didn't see it coming and barely made it into the new age of digital camera because of that shortsightedness.

This is the level of change that an inexpensive indoor digital architecture will bring to a utility currently based on a pole and wire architecture.

And just as you can do far more with a digital camera than simply taking pictures, you will be able to do far more with a Voiparty connection box than just connecting long distance calls.

And one big difference is that individual entrepreneurs were not offered a business opportunity with the rollout of digital cameras.

CIC will be in place in short order. Check back because as soon as it's here I will be asking Troy to move this thread out from under the SCAM ALERT tab.

16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Wireless VOIP News... · 2 replies · +1 points

If you think VoiParty is primarily about competing in the low cost long distance market you have missed the vision of the company.

Will they have low cost long distance? Sure... as one of many value propositions but not their only one and ultimately not their main one.

So many people just can't see beyond the immediate picture of long distance phone service.

They don't get how buiding a continent wide indoor digital telephone network is going to not only transform an existing utility but will create an entirely new way to deliver digital products and services. (cont. next post)

16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Wireless VOIP News... · 3 replies · +1 points

So what it comes down to MIke, is that the way you make a sale to a robot is different than the way you make a sale to a human. But we are still making a sale. It's just a lot easier.

You talk to a human with your voice. "Hey, would you like to buy your long distance minutes for less?" Maybe the person will say yes.

You talk to a robot with your connection box. "Hey, we've got the lowest cost for minutes over here in this little box." Definitely the robot will say yes.

The bottom line is a choice was made to go with the least cost bidder and a toll was charged for the call- a sale was made.

VoiParty's brilliant innovation is to seamlessly integrate within an existing system so that all sales are assured.

If this model is something that you wish to doubt or Troy wishes to warn against, so be it.

The Wright brothers were told they would never fly too.

16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Wireless VOIP News... · 3 replies · +1 points

The buying decision made by a human being was made a long time ago when they agreed to be a part of this systemitized approach to switching calls down the least cost route.

That human being was operating in the capacity of a corporate officer whose fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders is to deliver the highest level of profitability possible. By deciding to incorporate as company who's main product is call delivery they entered into the robotic system that was established by the industry regulators after the breakup of the Bell monopoly.

The power to make the buying decision was authorized to the robot by a human. "Yes, robot, we trust you to connect every one of our subscriber's calls for the least cost possible. Go and do our bidding." (cont. next post)

16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Wireless VOIP News... · 3 replies · +1 points

As far as "no selling" is concerned, I suggest you go to the other VoiParty thread here at the Helpdesk and read up on how VoiParty members make sales.

This is "one for the books" as VoiParty's 21st century business model has opened up a whole new area that doesn't fit existing sales models.

You could think of it like this: VoiParty is selling to "a robot." The robot has been programmed to connect long distance calls via the least cost route offered. Vendors compete for the business by uploading their particular cost per minute into the robot's data base.

All phone companies seeking to deliver long distance calls outside of their own infrastructure use the robot to find them the best deal available for each call. The robot 's operation systemetizes the marketplace and makes sure every phone company optimizes their profitibility.

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16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Wireless VOIP News... · 2 replies · +1 points

Hi Mike,

From your comments I don't think you've checked in on a company presentation for quite a while. The word investment was removed a long time ago (and a thank you to Troy is in order for pointing it out so it could be corrected).

Mike, have you ever made a mistake? Most humans have. VoiParty corrected that mistake when it was brought to their attention. (You can see my comments about the colloquial context they were speaking in when they first used the word at the very beginning of this comments thread. Of course they weren't offering an investment as the SEC would define that word. That's ridiculous).

(cont. next post)

16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Help Desk Response... · 2 replies · +1 points

Way back at the beginning of the original thread on this topic you sang the praises of Scott Warren as being a very together MLM lawyer.

Yes, VoiParty is a different kind of business than anyone has ever seen before but if Scott is leading the legal team then that would indicate to me that he believes this can be done.

I do appreciate the healthy debate that we've been having as it has allowed me to go into enough detail to communicate how different this is from anything that has ever come before.

Making automated sales to a central computer that has been programmed to find the lowest price to deliver a call for all the big phone companies is pure genius and so outside the box that it challenges everyone to see that we now have something that's broken the mold.

Work smart, not hard. Plug in a box and get paid. Invite others to do the same and get paid more.

Energetic, early adopters are coridally invited to get on board early. More conservative lay back and watch types are cordially invited to come in whenever they feel comfortable enough.

16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Help Desk Response... · 3 replies · +1 points

No other inter-exchange carrier can compete with VoiParty's indoor digitial telephone model where each member pays the maintainence fees because they are all outdoor pole and wire based delivery systems that they must carry the costs on.

OK if you have to keep telling your readers that they'd better beware of something that's never been done before. That's OK. Everyone has to decide what their own risk tolerence is anyway.

The thing I object to is placing it under the title SCAM ALERT. It may be new and it may be different but no one is trying to scam anybody... deliberately or by default of ignorance. (cont. next post)

16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Help Desk Response... · 3 replies · +1 points

That's what we VoiParty members sell- the cheapest connection fees.

It happens within an entirely automated system where the customers have already agreed to pay the lowest rate.

A central computer system called Least Cost Routing first detects each long distance call as to where and when it originates, where it is headed. It then scans the vendor bids for where that call needs to be connected and swithches the call through the lowest bidder's lines.

If it just so happens that there's a VoiParty box near where that call is going to be connected then that member's box is going to make the sale because VoiParty is going to be the lowest cost bidder by far. (cont. next post)

16 years ago @ MLM Help Desk Home Of ... - MLM Help Desk Response... · 2 replies · +1 points

Now how do I go about making these sales as a VoiParty member?

By choosing to plug in my box and choosing to leave it plugged in and active by paying for the electricity, the high speed modem and the copper line. CHOOSING to maintain my box live is how I make sales.

Keeping a box maintained and live takes an action, the action of making sure I pay my electric, highspeed and copper line bills.

I realize it takes a real mind snap to get that the act of plugging in the box insures that you will make a random number of sales per month to a whole bunch of different phone companies looking for the cheapest connection toll in your area. (cont. next post)

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