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16 years ago @ Big Journalism - Cue the Vultures: Medi... · 1 reply · -1 points

"She knows something you don't...

Those 3,000 people haven't left...their very ESSENCE has been SANDBLASTED into the still standing structures around World Trade Center... they are still there, in a way...forever..."

uh...Sam doesn't know that? Are you really being serious here?

That's nice that your tourist wife went to "ground zero" and touched the wall and now knows more than New Yorkers. OK. Sorry, even Rudy would laugh at your statement.

16 years ago @ Big Journalism - Cue the Vultures: Medi... · 1 reply · 0 points

Not at the moment. For now, I will be your TokenLiberal.

16 years ago @ Big Journalism - Cue the Vultures: Medi... · 1 reply · 0 points

What a well-thought out, intelligent response. Two thumbs up.

16 years ago @ Big Journalism - 'Learn to Speak Tea Ba... · 1 reply · +2 points

LOL - thanks! Lose/loose is a HUGE pet peeve of mine! That t-shirt is hysterical.

16 years ago @ Big Journalism - 'Learn to Speak Tea Ba... · 0 replies · 0 points

I was ok with it - it wasn't as many people as you'd think, and in general they were really very young. Most of the libs I know are questioning. We just get defensive when criticized by the right. There are idealogues on both sides - I'm a huge fan of Morning Joe, but a lot of people on the right think Joe's a RINO? (so I hear)

16 years ago @ Big Journalism - Cue the Vultures: Medi... · 2 replies · -4 points

I don't give a crap at ALL if I change your mind. Do you live in NY or have you ever? Or, are you somewhere in the midwest in front of a television/radio claiming only republicans can be patriots?

I was there, and I think about it DAILY. That doesn't mean we all have to see someone falling to their death.

Few things piss me off as much as people who claim a dissenting opinion is pre-9/11 mentality. Give me a freaking break. I was also there in 1993 when they bombed the WTC the first time and wondered when they were going to finish the job, because there was no way we could stop them. I knew the instant I saw the smoke rising that it was a terrorist attack, and I fully expect them to hit the subways next. Jake - grow up.

16 years ago @ Big Journalism - Cue the Vultures: Medi... · 9 replies · -6 points

I also take huge issue with the photo of the falling person. Nothing to do with being liberal, it's about taste. On the afternoon of 9/11 through several months I was as close to being republican as I've ever been, and went to a Rudy book signing (I am not close now).

Anyway...Rudy made a really, really dumb gaffe. He can take it, I'm sure.

16 years ago @ Big Journalism - Cue the Vultures: Medi... · 9 replies · -3 points

Jake, it has nothing to do with being PC. It's about using a very painful image for New Yorkers. It's like showing war dead. Not cool.

And do you really think anyone in NYC is pretending 9/11 didn't happen? Really? How insulting. You have no idea.

16 years ago @ Big Journalism - 'Learn to Speak Tea Ba... · 2 replies · 0 points

Well, ok, there's that (re. Dean) - I think he's right that the current bill is a disaster for the middle class, though. And that's a great point about the Constitution.

I'm not sure if the left will rise up the way many on the right have. It's a criticism that I have, that we don't get "angry" enough (one of my criticisms of the president as well). I think Ed Schultz is very quickly emerging as the voice of any kind of movement though. This is a good thing. He seems to be the only MSNBC pundit who can make Ron Christie smile (I think they're friends) and he's not afraid to take on his people. We need someone like that with a microphone. Chris Matthews, on the other hand, dismissed those of us who are critical of the HCR bill as "netroots" who don't know anything. I like Chris, but I think it's ok to ask questions (vital, really)

16 years ago @ Big Journalism - 'Learn to Speak Tea Ba... · 0 replies · -1 points

I didn't assign the label, your own people did...I'm not at political war...I'm sorry that you guys didn't know the term had double meaning, but I take no credit for it.

Likewise, I don't get all freaked out about being called a socialist, an idiot, a crazy liberal, or any other term, nor did I lose it when last night someone here called me a c-sucker. (comment was removed so I'll just abbreviate the word).

The left assigned "anti-choice" but did not assign "tea bagger."

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