TangledUpInBlue

TangledUpInBlue

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14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - City to pay man $250,0... · 0 replies · +26 points

How many times must a police officer lie under oath before they are terminated? Apparently, the PPD has yet to define that limit.

I personally believe that there can be no lying tolerated if acting in an official capacity. Zero tolerance, period. It undermines the law and everything it stands for. Those officers should be fired and have their certifications revoked. They should also be prosecuted for felony perjury and for abuse of power. Let me guess, a transfer to the training division instead? That seems to be where they keep their felons who have been 'caught' but not prosecuted.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Armed man who fired at... · 4 replies · -2 points

Excellent work by the Turner PD! A perfect example of 'contain and defuse', as opposed to the now commonplace 'confront and escalate' tactics that most departments have made their policy. It's nice to see.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Bomb threat on Korean ... · 1 reply · +12 points

The PANG 142nd FW is composed of (what used to be) the 318th Fighter Interceptor Squadron's F-15C's based, at the time, at McChord AFB. The USAF decommissioned the 318th in one of their big 'base realignments', and transferred the F-15C's from the 318th FIS (Active) to the 142nd AW (Guard) at PDX, and they then retired the 142nd's F-15A's, which were very tired. That was when PANG became responsible for the 'ready' flights, which previously was the job of the 318th. So, the responsibility came with the newer planes.

Probably TMI, but if you really wanted to know...

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Aaron Campbell\'s moth... · 3 replies · -14 points

I would strongly recommend reading it again, because with all due respect you are quite a way off on your recollections. Also, remember that this started not because he had committed a crime, but as a welfare call because his family was worried about him hurting himself. He was not a wanted felon, and there was no reason to believe that he intended to hurt anyone else.

As far as the grand jury not indicting, read their statement on the incident, also in the released testimony. The were very troubled, unanimously, about the incident. However, legally they had to leave it to a civil court to decide. Thus, the settlement.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Aaron Campbell\'s moth... · 5 replies · -11 points

Again, if you had read the Grand Jury testimony, you would know that all residents of the apartment walked out unrestrained and unharmed. There was nobody inside the apartment to hurt. Nobody in the apartment was ever threatened. Also, you would know that he wasn't armed.

It's available on the internet. Just Google it, and you will be able to get the real facts for yourself.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Aaron Campbell\'s moth... · 7 replies · -37 points

I think that it's naive to believe that the city would just pay her the $1.2 million if they thought that they had any real chance of winning in court. After reading the grand jury testimony, which I would strongly encourage all of you to do, you'll probably see that a lot of the comments here are way off base. I'm no fan of Adams, but these recommendations were made by a busload of attorneys working for the city. They paid the settlement because they very likely would've paid a lot more if it went to trial. I'm just going by the facts of the situation from the most accurate and complete source available, and after reading without bias the grand jury testimony, I'd say that she probably could've gotten more money if she took it to a jury. Again, I encourage you all to read the grand jury testimony, all of it. Some of these statements are so far off that it's baffling. IMHO.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Aaron Campbell\'s moth... · 2 replies · -18 points

Try reading the Grand Jury testimony. Either everyone on the scene was wrong, or you are.

Campbell was actually being given conflicting orders by two different officers simultaneously. He followed one set of instructions, and then an officer (one of those who was suspended) shot him in the lower right of his back with a bean bag load out of a 12ga.. THEN Campbell took off running, apparently for cover, reaching back to feel how badly he was hit (he probably didn't know that he was shot with a bean bag). That's when he was killed. Then they let the police dog chew on him for a while after he was down, even after he had ceased all signs of movement, before approaching and finding him dead.

Those are the facts of the case, as contained in the Grand Jury testimony. It's available on the internet. Recommended reading for anyone stating 'the facts' about the events that transpired that night.

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Police, family of Aaro... · 0 replies · +7 points

Hi noha,

The D.A.'s office released the Grand Jury testimony. I've read it, and I can assure you that most of your beliefs as to the circumstances of this case are simply not true. I'd recommend reading the testimony in full, and then I suspect that you'll realize how flawed your beliefs are. (There has been a lot of misinformation spread on this, so a lot of people have misconceptions of what happened that night.)

Campbell was given conflicting commands by two officers simultaneously. He followed one officer's instructions, which meant that he couldn't follow the other's. This led an officer to shoot him in the right lower back with a bean bag load out of a 12 ga. shotgun from a few meters away while he was standing still with his hands above his head. Then, his fight-or-flight instinct apparently kicked in and he started running for cover, and reached for the area where he was just hit (he didn't know it was a bean bag!), presumably to feel how badly he was wounded. That was when he was killed.

Please read the testimony in full and you will know the best available information as to the circumstances that led to his killing. I'd recommend to everyone who comments on this case who hasn't yet done so to read it in full. It is the best available source of information on the events that occurred, including the order in which they occurred.

Peace!

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - 42 Wash. lawmakers ask... · 0 replies · +10 points

Don't forget to note that they are currently working to isolate, extract and create synthetic versions of approx. 83 individual compounds found in everyday run-of-the-mill cannabis to treat depression, anxiety, pain, cancers, and a number of other conditions because cannabis' positive effects are readily attainable for almost no money. How is 'big pharma' supposed to make profits from the sick when people can just grow their own effective medicines? That's why it's listed as Schedule 1 by the DEA, because the pharmaceutical companies have 5 lobbyists for every representative on Capitol Hill to make sure that such sensible changes never occur. Watch what they do, not what they say...

It's sad that it could be helping so many people, and yet it remains grossly under-utilized because of nothing other than greed and prejudice. People in pain and suffering? No problem for them. People having to choose between negligibly effective yet often very dangerous prescription drugs and food when more effective, completely safe medication can be grown in their own yards? No problem. I'd say that helping people is pretty far down their list when it comes to their actual goals, and that they have no morals whatsoever. (Not to mention that legalization would mean the instant elimination of the black market and thus the at least half of the drug cartels' income, almost immediately.

The current drug policy is truly insane. Legalize cannabis!

14 years ago @ KATU - Portland, OR - Officer killed, five m... · 0 replies · +2 points

Wow, this is baffling that people could so flippantly disregard the Constitution. I'm with you on that Soup, and I find it disturbing that so many are so happy to throw away the written proclamation recognizing the basic human rights of all Americans to pursue life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That includes the premise of being innocent until proven guilty. It's sad that so many completely disregard the values that so many of our friends, our fathers, and forefathers have fought for and those who died to protect these principles. The Constitution is not partisan, it is there to provide a framework of a government that protects the human rights of us all! Frankly it's sad. Those who have died protecting the rights of us all would, I'm sure, be quite disgusted, but still respect the rights of even the most ignorant to form and express their opinions, as is expressed in the First Amendment of this Constitution so many seem to care so little about. I propose that you'll reconsider your position once such liberty is no longer allowed. I love my country, and that is in no small part due to the basic human rights that it is modeled to protect, (again, as outlined in the Constitution).