With the demise of the United States as a super power willing to protect the weak from aggression, all countries that can afford 10 billion or more should procure nuclear weapons. France and North Korea will help. Isn't it a great world? Most countries that are not planning aggression, spend about 1/2 % of GNP on national military. With the loss of America as a super power, everyone can start spending 5 to 10% of GNP and start drooling over their neighbors wealth. I recommend that China solve it's energy problem by taking over the oil fields of Iran. India and Pakistan can come to peace with a radioactive boarder that no one would dare cross. And Hugo Chavez can take over a few of his neighbors and get bogged down in a prolonged guerrilla war. It is a much nicer world without America interfering...

Na, government employees never lie to you, just to me. Especially with such an important document. Is there a doctor listed? Is there a hospital listed? We will never know, because it is criminal to tell what they know. It doesn't matter. In 2010 the congress will require that these documents be brought to life, and Obama will veto it. In 2012 the new president will sign it into law, and Obama's lawyers will argue ex post facto. The Supreme Court will finally allow it in 2014, and Obama will be stripped of his retirement. "You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." - P.T. Barnum

The hole in the DNC argument is that the certificate of live birth and the newspaper accounts were both open to fraudulent abuse. The state allowed people to register a birth with just a relative as a witness of the birth. This was done to allow for at home births, but could have been arranged to provide cover for Barack being born outside of the USA as his grandmother attested. So a possible scenerio would be that "arriving back in the states days after his birth in Kenya, Barrack is registered as a live birth here in the USA, and the newspapers, following the registrations, pick up the family names and print it." This allows Barack Sr. parents to be happy with the traditional birth in his native Africa, and for the child to skip the legal details of immigration. This scenario is totally possible given the facts we now have and fully explains the existing documents. If it is true or not depends on either a) Obama releasing his records, or b) the verification of the Kenyan birth certificate that has recently surfaced. Either Obama is playing some weird game hiding a valid birth certificate, or he is lying. The issue is not decided, but if some bookie could start taking bets, I think I know where I would put my money.