"Let me be clear: It is not our policy or practice to mislead Congress. That is against our laws and our values. ... "

Yeah, riiight ... so is torture, dumbass.

Justin, granted it is plain that Pelosi is a time-serving hack with nothing in the way of moral or intellectual ability to recommend her. But this statement from Panetta could have equally been made by any of the previous administrations officials or any of their Republican and Democratic collaborators.

The facts, however, are that we do torture, we did torture, we have done for decades, and we will keep on torturing, and what the public thinks/believes are our "laws and values" will remain irrelevant to these facts.