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13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - The worst of the west · 0 replies · 0 points

Why is heroin illegal then? Or crystal meth? In fact, why is armed robbery illegal? We haven't been able to stop armed robbers in Canada, so let's make it legal. We could tax all the armed robbers, help them to do it in a safer manner, and the government would make money from it.

13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - The worst of the west · 0 replies · 0 points

So, if you admit a big drug problem, does that mean that the citizens of Quebec don't report all crimes? That would explain a few things about the stats.

13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - The worst of the west · 0 replies · 0 points

In my backyard, they're not exaggerated. They are put on the front page of every newspaper so that we can see exactly what a drug crime problem we have. No more hiding our eyes.

13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - The worst of the west · 1 reply · 0 points

How about simply locking up the drug-dealing scumbags in jail for 50 years for poisoning our children? No need to legalize anything.

13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - The worst of the west · 0 replies · 0 points

I don't think you're getting my point. My point is that you cannot make just one drug legal and expect the gangs to disappear. They will just sell something else to make their money. If you want to make marijuana legal in order to eliminate gangs, you will fail. After legalization, the gangs will just move on to pushing something else that is lucrative. They already have coke, crack, meth, ecstacy, heroin, and others. If you want to legalize marijuana in order to eliminate gangs, then you must also legalize all of those drugs and ask the government to regulate them all, so that you take all the drug money away from the gangs.

If you look at prohibition of alcohol, it's a perfect example of my point. I'm sure that people argued that ending the prohibition of alcohol would eliminate crime... but here we are today with a huge global drug trade problem that is run by organized crime. By your argument, all gangs that smuggled booze should have completely collapsed when prohibition ended. But they didn't go away, they just moved on to other drugs and became even more powerful.

So, would you agree that the gang/drug/crime problem goes way beyond pot? And, are you prepared to ask any Government (Conservative, Liberal, or other) to regulate and sell all harmful/fatal narcotics to Canadians to support your argument?

Or, like many others in the debate, do you just like smoking pot, and the anti-gang discussions are a convenient means for you to try and get it legally?

People are getting shot dead in my backyard. I have children. This is not about whether it's ok for Canadians to smoke pot. It's about fighting crime.

13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - Canada’s most danger... · 0 replies · +1 points

You're kidding, right? It is precisely due to our drug and gang problems... we've always had a large first-nations populations, and we've always had an unemployment rollercoaster associated with natural resource commodity prices.

But we haven't always had scumbag drug dealing gangbangers shooting each other in our back yards.

13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - The worst of the west · 1 reply · +4 points

If that's correct, then can you say that the indigenous population grew at the exact same rate as the crime rate did?

I grew up in Prince George, the #1 city this year. There always was, and still is, a proud First Nations population. But there weren't always gang-bangers and scumbag drug dealers present as there is today.

I'd bet that there are other corellations here for you to consider... like the size and effort of the police force, potential migration of criminals from major centres, or even the demographics of a region. How about the effectiveness of police and crown council in each region in keeping the criminals off our streets?

13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - The worst of the west · 0 replies · -1 points

Unless you or your buddy has some evidence, you'd best be careful with this type of B.S. rumour posting. Ever hear of libel or slander?

I can't say that Dan Rogers is perfect or innocent, but I know that he worked his way up from being a community sports reporter in the '80's to a Councilor, and now Mayor, and has always appeared to have honesty and good intentions. If you want to say otherwise, back it up.

13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - The worst of the west · 2 replies · 0 points

No, but I see dope, meth, and heroin dealers shooting each other in my backyard. Their 20th-century predecessors moved on from alcohol and tobacco, towards pot, and then added cocaine, heroin, crack, crystal meth, and so on).

The legalization argument doesn't work because it looks only at legalizing marijuana, which is a limited view of combating what makes criminals successful. But, unless you want to say that every single possible narcotic currently sold by gangs will always be sold only by the government-authorized stores (crack, crystal meth, and heroin included), this drug legalization strategy of eliminating gangs cannot work.

Imagine that as soon as pot is legal, the drug producing scumbags will step up their production and pushing of ecstasy or crystal meth, and then produce some new drug with a bigger high that they will push out to the druggies on the street. By your argument, the government would have to start selling those, too, so that they are no more gang-backed drug dealers on the street.

Can you see the cycle here? The government would have to keep selling stronger and stronger "legal" drugs to fight the gangs, and the gangs would continue to make new stronger drugs (just like they are now). The leap-frog cycle doesn't end. New drug on the street, new drug to be legalized, new drug on the street.

So, I ask again, where does legalization end?

Better yet... how would the legalization of marijuana stop gangs?

13 years ago @ Macleans.ca - The worst of the west · 4 replies · 0 points

Sure, and we could also sell heroine, crack, blow, and opium at 7-11. They're from plants, too. They help people to feel good and overcome pain... and they don't cause addictions.

So, where would your proposed legalization of drugs actually end? And how will you stop the existing drug producing gangs and dealers from selling their highly-potent products on the street like they do right now? Oh, right... you'll need the police to enforce laws. Just like they are so successfully doing now.

Sounds to me like you and Tony just want your drug problems to be legal and this was a good opportunity to promote your cause.