en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/4068306 Comments by I_Marz http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment252073243 If you're going to quote the Quran then do so objectively & DO NOT omit things; 5:47 (Asad) Let, then, the followers of the Gospel judge in accordance with what God has revealed therein: for they who do not judge in the light of what God has bestowed from on high-it is they, they who are truly iniquitous! 47:4 (Picktall) Now when ye meet in battle those who disbelieve, then it is smiting of the necks until, when ye have routed them, then making fast of bonds; and afterward either mercy or ransom till the war lay down its burdens. That (is the ordinance). And if Allah willed He could have punished them (without you) but (thus it is ordained) that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He rendereth not their actions vain. SEE you just quote/see what you want to subjectively & denying the truth/virtue within...be FAIR/HONEST; 1. of course in war there would be killings DUH! 2. The time for MERCY/ Ransom! 3. Until the war lay down its burdens = ends = peace/ a truce! 4:95 (Picktall) Those of the believers who sit still, other than those who have a (disabling) hurt, are not on an equality with those who strive in the way of Allah with their wealth and lives. Allah hath conferred on those who strive with their wealth and lives a rank above the sedentary. Unto each Allah hath promised good, but He hath bestowed on those who strive a great reward above the sedentary; - STRIVE NOT FIGHT!!!!! and yes its true we were expected to fight for Islam & God, why is that so strange! What do you call the Crusade wars against Muslims...was that NOT ordained and sanctioned by the Pope & Church!? OR WII approved by the Pope & Church as well! So its just alright for you to fight , make inquisitions, deadly missions, crusades, war for oil & NOT alright for us to fight?!!! thats an egocentric, delusional way of thinking...no wonder America is hated so much...not just Muslims, I'm travelling in Australia now & they don't stand the US at the moment! so yes, we will fight those of transgress against them for we are FEARLESS unlike your army that fights with drones and hide behind the technology! I would rather not fight but if the fight comes to us we don't back down. here;s what really blows my mind; (a) many historians don't believe in the historical Jesus as there is NO real evidence to him (b) Jews called him a liar/fraud and tried to kill him (c) Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto & atheist don't give a damn...right?!! While (a) Mohamed is the ONLY person to support him (b) Quran is the ONLY other source to mention him (c) Muslims are the ONLY ppl that believe in JC!!!! So how come all teh hate towards us...its divide and conquer tactics of the devil! Open your eyes...Mohamed is the last of teh prophets, Islam is the final instalment of the religions, The Quran is the final testament & last chapter Marz Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:43:49 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment252073243 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment247100646 Be-headings are NOT our teachings & we don't support them Neither does Mohamed, Muslims Nor Islam! Its NOT in the Quran and is NOT practised, stop believing the lies/media! However, with that said...do believe in the death penalty? Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:36:56 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment247100646 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240293419 you're not making sense Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:20:54 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240293419 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240291174 so you're taking teh writings of FICTION, soothsayers as facts? pathetic! Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:16:45 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240291174 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240290411 you mean after he just negotiated for the release of prisoners for the soldier? Im just sating.... Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:15:07 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240290411 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240289210 correction 2 billion! & he's still alive eh....you guys are too silly to take seriously Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:13:06 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240289210 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240288037 correction 2 billion Muslims, including your next door neighbour & boss...so what you gonna do? Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:11:06 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240288037 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240287287 you dont make any sense what so ever! Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:09:48 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment240287287 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment239952780 Well you're twice mistaken my friend...I read the Quran several times, as well as the Bible as I was previously an atheist and a none believer. I don't ever refer to the hadith as its after all, man made, much like the Bible though both perhaps are God inspired. What I get from both scriptures, the most prevailing message "do unto your brother..." and that we are all each others keepers. All true Muslims adhere to this message & most EDUCATED people know thats a FACT! So I suggest if you are truly seeking wisdom, go back and read the Quran again and see all the beautiful, peaceful advise within. After all, ALL monotheistic religions are from the SAME God...no? Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:17:20 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment239952780 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment239950197 well again I'm sorry you feel this way & for you as well. I guess only time will tell & by that time it would be too late to change your misguided views, at a time when even Jesus will not stand by you and your beliefs in him; 5:116 And behold! God will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God.?" 5:117He will say: "Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship God, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things. Amen Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:12:37 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment239950197 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment236287933 Thats contradicting...praying for enemies not strangers? Good people pray for all...for we're all good children. I hope you turn your anger/hate towards the real enemy, Satan, who wishes us all, equally, harm and eternal damnation...no? and to his followers; the Illuminati, skulls & bones members, the Bohemian group all whom are high ranking officials, business men, media members mostly in the US. Who spread hate and profit from wars and bloodshed and do all this right under our noses & with our consent because they appear as saviours! Wake up and smell the REAL danger. As for Christ; we truly believe Christ is God's messenger as mentioned numerous times in the Quran, a prophet like Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon ending with Mohamed (peace be upon them all as we do not differentiate between any of the prophets). However, we DO NOT believe he is God reincarnate or God's son...that is paganism & a great misdeed against the Lord to make such claims... And they say: The Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a son. (88) Assuredly ye utter a disastrous thing (89) Whereby almost the heavens are torn, and the earth is split asunder and the mountains fall in ruins, (90) That ye ascribe unto the Beneficent a son, (91) When it is not meet for (the Majesty of) the Beneficent that He should choose a son. (92) There is none in the heavens and the earth but cometh unto the Beneficent as a slave. (93) Taken from Maryam Chapter 19. Go ahead challenge your beliefs and read the whole chapter that gives account of Christ's birth & tell all, challenging ones beliefs is the only way to the truth...go ahead Beth, this is a dare :)) P.S in eye witness accounts, who do you mean? John, Mark, Luke and Mathew where NOT alive during the time of Christ...this is a well known FACT, ask your priest even. As for the Bible, though God inspired yes (the Psalms & Gospel also mentioned in the Quran) is at end of the day man made; over 3000 years and an estimated 400 contributors. Eventually compiled (selected) by Emperor Constantine 300 years after the death of Christ when he wanted to unite the Roman Empire under one religion to save it from disintegrating. Arm yourself with knowledge my sister lest you be misguided! Nonetheless, I remain hopeful & will continue to pray for you and everyone. Salam (peace) Mon, 12 Dec 2011 07:55:00 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment236287933 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment235116770 This is not intense debate...this is intense hate!? I pity you people with such dark hearts...then you have the nerve to call Islam/Muslims violent when you can think/write such horrid thoughts? I'm glad you're but a minority in the world & will, because of your narrow perspectives, remain as such even dwindling in number! That's better than any victory a sword or a gun can achieve ;) peace y'all Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:49:07 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment235116770 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment235114773 obviously it is you you who is messed up (to use your own words)...blinded by hate and crippled by fear! Unfortunately I cannot help you no one can... but you Beth should you decide to 'unlearn' what has been crammed down your throat & start with a fresh clean mind, then the truth will show itself. I just pity you but will pray for you as well... Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:43:07 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment235114773 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233681306 My reply was to address specifically to word 'article', as Fawstin's piece does not constitute an article and secondly, though equally important, on propagating hate/war rather than peace & love...so I think I wasn't that much off topic. As for the Horowitz video, I hope you realize that IT IS a biased documentary again seeking to insight fear of Muslims & pity for Israel...in that sense it worked eh For every such documentary I can show one that show the opposite; Israelis teaching their kids to hate Arabs & even Christian camps in America doing the same...however the latter get less exposure. I spent the other night discussing with & reporting Utube account holders that propagate hate towards Christians... so no sir I do not stand idle in face of any injustice & fear/war mongering from anyone... however there are those who prefer to add gas to the fire, I would rather help put the fire out before it consumes the entire human race Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:17:21 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233681306 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233533136 As a comic book writer and life long comics fan, in all honesty I find the Character Pigman...tasteless & uninspiring. Your art in general is hmmm plain and boring, I imagine your story lines & plots are equally weak! That's my professional opinion and excludes any personal remarks on your work. Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:22:05 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233533136 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233531809 While I respect Bosch's right to express his opinion, the more intelligent reader would quickly realize this is NOT an article by any sense of the word! It lacks credibility for failing to quote any source, sight or document any official document, doctrine, events or historical facts. This reads more like ramblings of a paranoid individual propagating hate, racism and bigotry. Its ironic he mentions the Nazis so often when his 'article' sounds all too familiar like Hitler's speech against the Jews during WWII. This is indeed disturbing to say the least that educated people would support such an opinion...a path to the dark side indeed. Rather that spreading hate and mistrust, I as Muslim, Canadian Third Degree Master Mason & a comic book writer am working to spread a message of acceptance, respect, love and unity...for we are NOT our brother's enemy! Humanity's true enemy is Satan who seeks to destroy us by means of 'divide and conquer'...pitting us one against the other! Open your eyes, minds and hearts my friends lest you be blind, arrogant and hateful... Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:18:41 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233531809 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233531527 now this is where you are committing the same mistake as Khan. If you reseached Islam at all, you'll find that the Quran & Muslims believe in all prophets from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, to Mary & Jesus...ending with Mohamed and hence all three Monotheistic religions subscribe to the SAME God...mysticism not included ;) Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:17:53 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233531527 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233530379 While I respect Bosch's right to express his opinion, the more intelligent reader would quickly realize this is NOT an article by any sense of the word! It lacks credibility for failing to quote any source, sight or document any official document, doctrine, events or historical facts. This reads more like ramblings of a paranoid individual propagating hate, racism and bigotry. Its ironic he mentions the Nazis so often when his 'article' sounds all too familiar like Hitler's speech against the Jews during WWII. This is indeed disturbing to say the least that educated people would support such an opinion...a path to the dark side indeed. Rather that spreading hate and mistrust, I as Muslim, Canadian Third Degree Master Mason & a comic book writer am working to spread a message of acceptance, respect, love and unity...for we are NOT our brother's enemy! Humanity's true enemy is Satan who seeks to destroy us by means of 'divide and conquer'...pitting us one against the other! Open your eyes, minds and hearts my friends lest you be blind, arrogant and hateful... Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:14:33 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233530379 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233529919 While I respect Bosch's right to express his opinion, the more intelligent reader would quickly realize this is NOT an article by any sense of the word! It lacks credibility for failing to quote any source, sight or document any official document, doctrine, events or historical facts. This reads more like ramblings of a paranoid individual propagating hate, racism and bigotry. Its ironic he mentions the Nazis so often when his 'article' sounds all too familiar like Hitler's speech against the Jews during WWII. This is indeed disturbing to say the least that educated people would support such an opinion...a path to the dark side indeed. Rather that spreading hate and mistrust, I as Muslim, Canadian Third Degree Master Mason & a comic book writer am working to spread a message of acceptance, respect, love and unity...for we are NOT our brother's enemy! Humanity's true enemy is Satan who seeks to destroy us by means of 'divide and conquer'...pitting us one against the other! Open your eyes, minds and hearts my friends lest you be blind, arrogant and hateful... Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:13:17 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233529919 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233529480 While I respect Bosch's right to express his opinion, the more intelligent reader would quickly realize this is NOT an article by any sense of the word! It lacks credibility for failing to quote any source, sight or document any official document, doctrine, events or historical facts. This reads more like ramblings of a paranoid individual propagating hate, racism and bigotry. Its ironic he mentions the Nazis so often when his 'article' sounds all too familiar like Hitler's speech against the Jews during WWII. This is indeed disturbing to say the least that educated people would support such an opinion...a path to the dark side indeed. Rather that spreading hate and mistrust, I as Muslim, Canadian Third Degree Master Mason & a comic book writer am working to spread a message of acceptance, respect, love and unity...for we are NOT our brother's enemy! Humanity's true enemy is Satan who seeks to destroy us by means of 'divide and conquer'...pitting us one against the other! Open your eyes, minds and hearts my friends lest you be blind, arrogant and hateful... Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:12:01 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2011/12/02/non-muslim-muslims-and-the-jihad-against-the-west/#IDComment233529480