And I am sooo thankful you talked about it! Yes, so profound. Whether we can be happy all the time is one thing, but the baseline can be a state of joy. Doable. Thanks again, Evan!

Hey! I listen to both you and Evan all the time. (huge thanks!). Happily surprised to hear EFT mentioned (some might foolishly put it in the woo woo category). EFT or Energy Psychology was finally accepted as an accredited technique by the APA (american psychological association) after a number of psychologists garnered enough studies to proof it's efficacy. Please please (special request for a guest) interview David Feinstein, PhD http://www.innersource.net/ep/ on how EFT works and how you do it. EFT has been around for about 20 years now - Gary Craig doing most of the work advancing the technique and the main advocate. David Feinstein and Gary Craig wrote the definitive book on EFT (aka Energy Psychology).
The tapping itself doesn't have to be 100% on 'point' - acupuncture points that is - but it's much more effective if you do the process correctly. ( I love you Evan and I think you may have adapted the technique a little....) EP/EFT usually starts with the set up statement, or psychological reversal. (tapping a triple warmer point on your hand, between the bones of your pinky and ring finger) Shrinks usually start by having you rub points on your chest (neurolymphatic points) and stating the NEGATIVE belief "Even though I am up way to late writing this, I deeply and completely love (or honor) and accept myself"
Then you begin tapping the points while saying what comes to mind around the issue. at the beginning of your eyebrow - which is the beginning of bladder meridian (rules nerves), then corner of the eye bone (triple warmer and gall bladder meridians), then under your eyes on the bone (beginning of stomach meridian), then under your nose (end of governing meridian) chin under your lip (end of central meridian) - to under the collar bones (kidney 27 - really important meridian) to under you arms (spleen meridian). Etc, There is more. It's believed that by bringing up the negative event - which stimulates the amygdala - then tapping - which calms the amygdala - you are in effect rewiring a neural response.
I've been studying and using the technique for 10 years now and I've witnessed some amazing results. Especially when demoed by and experienced depth psychologist like Dr. Feinstein, Gary Craig (I've taken his 5 day seminar) and a 10th degree black belt friend who uses it while training his martial arts students. They literally kick ass :)

Fabulous interview! What I found especially interesting was the discussion about heart rate variability vs 'state recognition' (for lack of a better term). Since I'm a kinesthetic learner - and intuitive - it was easy for me to 'check in' and learn to adjust my state (with breathing, eye position, visualization, stance). When I try to teach these methods to friends that are digital learners (very mental, sequential thinkers) -- I can see that they don't know what I'm asking of them. So a biofeedback device is probably really good for non-kinesthetic learners as they need a method that is "objective" (a machine that reads their biometrics) to train them to cue in to themselves. An advanced black belt that I've learned state management from, has an interesting technique training digital guys how to clue in. Vivid sexual cues. Seems to work every time!

One factor that has been left out -- is the idea, picture, smell, whatever it is that drives the seeker. The primary mover of the seeker human. (We have lots of dogs, and they usually get a scent of something, then go looking for it. Our customers are primarily seeker types. I discovered early on, they came to us with a picture or sensory combination, in their mind, and my job was to anticipate what those pictures/combination of senses, will be, and design products for them. I remember one customer saying to me "I knew something better had to be out there." (She was an astronomer, so I guess "seeker" describes her well !) I'm a seeker type too, and I don't like the finding to be too easy.