en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/3295703 Comments by Grakaron http://biggovernment.com/bshapiro/2012/02/27/obama-admin-hooks-up-with-gay-activist-who-created-santorum-google-bomb/#IDComment303265287 Um... actually no, Mormons believe all can achieve salvation in this existence or the next. Even if they dont believe in this one. Its unique in that it sees all are granted another chance at salvation in the next life when they have the full truth of existence before them, instead of them being dammed because they made a wrong decision in this life. And I accept your appology and offer my own, sometimes when I get to talking about something I can sound condecending, I'm sorry if i came across that way at any point. Tue, 28 Feb 2012 00:44:07 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/bshapiro/2012/02/27/obama-admin-hooks-up-with-gay-activist-who-created-santorum-google-bomb/#IDComment303265287 http://biggovernment.com/bshapiro/2012/02/27/obama-admin-hooks-up-with-gay-activist-who-created-santorum-google-bomb/#IDComment303246980 No your not understanding, in the LDS Faith, baptism is a part of salvation. We do it for others that have passed on, but in what you term the afterlife they have a choice of accepting it or not. Its hard to explain the full amount of what goes on without giving a few pagefuls of information. But its basically we do it for those that can not, but it is their choice to accept or not, just as we believe its peoples choice whether to believe or not. Free Will is the most important aspect of the LDS Faith its one reason why myself and the ones I've known are conservative in principle. Its also a reason why I wont vote for Romney, self determination and free choice is paramount, charity and help comes from the community by a choice of those individuals, not mandated by taxes or a government. Tue, 28 Feb 2012 00:11:02 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/bshapiro/2012/02/27/obama-admin-hooks-up-with-gay-activist-who-created-santorum-google-bomb/#IDComment303246980 http://biggovernment.com/bshapiro/2012/02/27/obama-admin-hooks-up-with-gay-activist-who-created-santorum-google-bomb/#IDComment303202582 Actually the way the Mormon religion works in this reguard, is we are baptized in the place of the deceased for them, but they have the choice of whether or not to accept that baptism. It is not forced upon them, overall Mormon faith believes in free will. Its hilarious when moronic people try to make fun of a religion by doing what they think the religion does and have no basis in reality. This is also the reason why geneology is so important to Mormons cause they wish to help others. Even if you dont believe in what we believe in you can see the reason why its considered important work, cause they are trying to bring those that dont have the ability to, to salvation if they wish to. Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:57:03 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/bshapiro/2012/02/27/obama-admin-hooks-up-with-gay-activist-who-created-santorum-google-bomb/#IDComment303202582 http://biggovernment.com/cmuir/2012/02/05/3rd-times-the-charm/#IDComment284596729 Its sad but true, the Grand Old Party is not the party of my Grandfather. Hopefully we patriots will be able to stop this leftist creep upon our republic. Sun, 5 Feb 2012 16:40:33 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/cmuir/2012/02/05/3rd-times-the-charm/#IDComment284596729 http://biggovernment.com/awrhawkins/2012/01/17/newt-gingrich-to-juan-williams-capitalism-is-not-racist/#IDComment267203303 I'm sorry that you've had bad buisness deals with Mormons in the past, but as one I like to say that lying, cheating, or misleading anyone is against our beliefs. Please don't take Romney as an example of Mormons as a whole. I personally agree with you and won't vote for him even if he's the only one. I don't like him, his lies, or his flip flops. If there was a way to bring Regan back I would in a second, we need a real conservative and lover of the Republic to get us forward. And we also arn't a cult, really don't understand why people keep saying that. I beleive in Jesus and that he's our only savior. If people are going to attack Romney do it cause of his policies and history, not cause of his religion. Not saying you did Cowboy, but many others on this forum have. Wed, 18 Jan 2012 00:28:11 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/awrhawkins/2012/01/17/newt-gingrich-to-juan-williams-capitalism-is-not-racist/#IDComment267203303 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.67b05f749c8ec87c2037e222b21c070b.631&show_article=1#IDComment255181949 I honestly dont care how much this affects my rating, but as a Mormon I find it slightly offensive that others would attack my faith based upon some almost paranoid belief that were out to get people. I disagree with Romney's position on many things, in fact so much so that I would only vote for him if he was the only other choice to Obama. I think hes too moderate for what this country needs to get back on track, but to attack him based upon his faith? Its kind of funny cause some comments mention this as if we infested the United States. As a Roman Catholic convert to Mormonism, I have to say that I still have the utmost respect for my former beliefs, I think some things are wrong, but I understand that in following the tenants it raises the goodness inherent in all human beings. Jesus was our savior, is our savior, and will always be our savior. Attacking each other based upon religion is something for liberals and democrats, who claim to respect our religious beliefs, but use them to mock us in any underway they can. If were going to disagree, disagree because his policies are wrong, which they are. I personally do not know which candidate would make the best choice currently, but I know that Romney feels more like a centralist that will not decrease the burden of government upon us. Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:35:05 +0000 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.67b05f749c8ec87c2037e222b21c070b.631&show_article=1#IDComment255181949 http://biggovernment.com/kenandken/2011/12/30/holder-race-baiting-about-obamas-re-election-not-voting-rights/#IDComment250987595 I don't understand the problem, as a Dual Citizen currently living in Canada to finish my schooling, there are laws up here in every province that for all elections you require photo ID. No one complains about it up here, its a standard requirement, and like the states its free to those that dont have the money, all you have to have is Citizenship papers for immigrants, or a birth certificate/legal documentation proving who your parents are and its yours. There are none of the outrages, race cards, or idiotic complaints for poor people up here. Why is it considered so different down there. I thought the USA is suppose to be the pinacle of civilization currently, but Canada can do Voter ID, while the US can not? Logic, there is none here. Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:05:57 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kenandken/2011/12/30/holder-race-baiting-about-obamas-re-election-not-voting-rights/#IDComment250987595 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/12/23/surrender-house-gop-agrees-to-two-month-payroll-tax-holiday/#IDComment245470680 If Boehner doesnt lose his speakership after this, I'm really not sure what relevence the GOP has. This is ultimatly a betrayal of the principles conservatives believe in for some cheap political points which they wont get anyways cause Obama will just be "I forced them into a deal, see how i'm a great negotiator and defender of the American people!" Party of stupid indeed. Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:49:51 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/12/23/surrender-house-gop-agrees-to-two-month-payroll-tax-holiday/#IDComment245470680 http://biggovernment.com/rebelpundit/2011/12/21/scientific-study-occupy-protesters-driven-by-self-interest-lack-of-meaning-fear-and-control/#IDComment243752581 And these are the people I'm continually told in university by my professors to emulate. I'd rather shoot myself Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:39:14 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/rebelpundit/2011/12/21/scientific-study-occupy-protesters-driven-by-self-interest-lack-of-meaning-fear-and-control/#IDComment243752581 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/12/17/romney-declares-himself-ideal-tea-party-candidate/#IDComment240661850 Actually Mormons drink herbal tea's theres a slight difference. And it be preferable if you didn't bring religion into this, many Church of Latter Day Saints members disagree with Romney on many issues, such as personal charity over government handouts. Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:37:54 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/12/17/romney-declares-himself-ideal-tea-party-candidate/#IDComment240661850 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.2053fa8d0dabe704686a8a1b012ec069.31&show_article=1#IDComment235556185 The recessions over? When did that happen, all I see is a government continuing to make the buisness environment a nightmare and people giving up on trying to find jobs cause of the continued government intervention in something it should stay the heck out of. Edit: Should specify more this administration, but government is still a problem more so then a solution. Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:27:48 +0000 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.2053fa8d0dabe704686a8a1b012ec069.31&show_article=1#IDComment235556185 http://biggovernment.com/fmcdonnell/2011/12/05/dick-durbin-may-block-religious-freedom-commissions-renewal-to-force-feds-to-buy-prison-he-wanted-for-gitmo-detainees/#IDComment233233930 Why is it whenever Dick Durban's name comes up its for something completly outrageous, a shackling on normal citizenry, and an abuse of power. Mon, 5 Dec 2011 20:05:03 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/fmcdonnell/2011/12/05/dick-durbin-may-block-religious-freedom-commissions-renewal-to-force-feds-to-buy-prison-he-wanted-for-gitmo-detainees/#IDComment233233930 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226995453 I was trying to point out that there are other more suitable presidents and speeches to use for giving true thanks for Thanksgiving, but Publius seems to have a thing for Lincoln in most of his posts. I admit I probably have gotten away from my true intent, I do appologise and hope that everyone has had, and will have, a wonderful Thanksgiving, and a good time with both friends and family. This is not truely the time for this discussion. Fri, 25 Nov 2011 04:55:45 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226995453 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226993814 A persons opinion changed against their will, will be of the same opinion still. Slavery is an affront to all human decency, it degrades both them, and the person doing it. But more often than not, economics play a major factor in changing discusting actions. Adam Smith pointed it out best that mans inherent selfishness will actually benefit all, for the greed of human beings will guide the free market, and give all more. Economics has always been the true weapon of the US, and our culture. Slavery is never truely cost effective, I know that sounds cold but its true. In the end its better to pay a man to work hard, then to work a man to death and try to find another to do the same to. I could pose the question back to you, is a homeless man on the street an affront to human decency? Should we help him by putting him on welfare and putting a burden on others? or should we push the market system were it becomes viable to hire him for a living wage and he can take care of himself? Fri, 25 Nov 2011 04:50:52 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226993814 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226988683 You of course are right, a foreign power trying to reinforce an illegal military base upon your soil even after they have been continually told to leave is totally not agressive at all. Neither is the fact that the war started after he was sworn into office. You are also totally right in that when wish to leave a marriage you should have to give back everything your spouse bought for you. I also appreciate your gamble to marginalize my opinion by stating that I believe Thanksgiving should not be observed or allowed, its a very nice touch. I do believe in Thanksgiving, and giving thanks for God, and the life that I live. And thank you for pointing out an inaccuracy, I was refering to State powers, not state rights. I was in error there. But in saying so you also reinforce what I stated earlier. If the people of the Southern States choose to leave, that is their right is it not? and it should be respected? Fri, 25 Nov 2011 04:31:56 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226988683 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226979866 Many of the southern states were already on their way to removing slavery. It was not cost effective compared to current machinery. There are two main points, if you believe the federal government has the right to go beyond its authority to help a disEnfranhised group of people then you agree with Obama care, it's the same principle no matter how much people like to say it isn't. And if the civil war was truly about slavery, then the emancipation proclamation would have been said day one or at least in the first month, not years later. Fri, 25 Nov 2011 04:00:01 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226979866 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226968698 Once again I'm confused. Lincoln expanded the federal government, put more power in the executive branch and set up the framework for a civil war when he reinforced bases in the south instead of leaving when these states used their constitutional rights to leave the union. It's cause of Lincoln that our current federal government is a bloated mess of power and states rights are ignored. Why cheer for a tyrant and the one responsible for the beginning of the long road of federal over reach of power. Fri, 25 Nov 2011 03:22:13 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-proclamation/#IDComment226968698 http://biggovernment.com/mrctv/2011/08/10/are-tea-party-supporters-terrorists/#IDComment182026142 Stupidity, thy name is liberal propaganda. Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:14:24 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/mrctv/2011/08/10/are-tea-party-supporters-terrorists/#IDComment182026142 http://biggovernment.com/skruiser/2011/07/23/new-ofa-video-about-wall-st-reform-yay-government/#IDComment176725413 Just more "We need more government intervention to fix the government intervention in the economy!" God I hope no budget is passed for August 2 (Unless its a cap, cut and balance type!), finally force the government to live within its means and stop jumping into help everywhere and make things worse. Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:33:09 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/skruiser/2011/07/23/new-ofa-video-about-wall-st-reform-yay-government/#IDComment176725413 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/07/01/friday-free-for-all-gettysburg-edition-2/#IDComment168829434 I think you misunderstand me I'm saying that the limited government and states rights the south fought for would have benefited us now. I was trying to say that in an amusing way, I should have been more clear. First post and all but I've been an avid reader for quite awhile. I will try to keep my posts more stated out Fri, 1 Jul 2011 22:54:04 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/07/01/friday-free-for-all-gettysburg-edition-2/#IDComment168829434