Darren300
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14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 0 replies · +4 points
Another superlative without foundation? "10 And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is the land of our forefathers," (Alma 7). And before declaring that he was born in Bethlehem, which he was, and not "at Jerusalem" please remember that Alma was speaking of Jerusalem from across the world and referred to it as the "land of Jerusalem"; not the "city of Jerusalem". Likewise I grew up just outside of Chicago and so here in Houston I tell people I am from Chicago although strictly speaking I am not, at least from Chicago proper but note that I am deceiving noone, nor erring as to where I am from. So responding to people "I am from Chicago", which I am, is not the same as "I'm from the city of Chicago", which i am not. Furthermore, using the terminology "land of" is perfectly acceptable in both the Dead Sea Scrolls aswell as Near Eastern literature. Neither of which Joseph Smith was privy to.
14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 0 replies · +7 points
From the BlackLDS link I previously provided you you can read: "Elijah Abel Requests Permission to Receive Endowments. Brigham Young denies the reqeust. Abel had already been through the Kirtland Temple for washings and anointings and he was already baptized for the dead in Nauvoo." Kirtland and Nauvoo would be in Joseph Smith's time. Unfortunatey for Abel, he was not allowed to receive his endowments by Brigham Young. Also, in 1902, Jane Manning received the sealing ordinance of the temple.
The priesthood ban is a painful aspect for me n LDS history. I wish it never happened but it did. At least you can present it accuratly. That is, if you're interested in doing so.
14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 0 replies · +6 points
14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 0 replies · +7 points
14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 0 replies · +3 points
Yeah, and to trust your emperical "fact" you don't have faith in your methodology? How about the interpretation of "emperical fact"? It's impossible to do anything without exercising at least a centilla of faith.
14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 2 replies · +8 points
Except for those who did under Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.
Sheesh, you're an expert on superlatives with no foundation. I bet you graduated with honors from Liberal High.
14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 0 replies · +8 points
14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 2 replies · +6 points
Over what? You cannot cite a single criminal conviction upon Joseph Smith. Governor Boggs of Missouri issued an Extermination Order upon the Mormons, and Governor Ford of Illinois promised Smith his ersonal protection and then left Smith and other in Carthage Jail with the mobs swarming around them.
"Smith taught that "congress has no power to make a law that would abridge the rights of my religion," and that they were not under the obligation to follow laws they deemed as being contrary to their "religious privilege."Smith may have thus felt justified in promoting polygamy despite its violation of both traditional ethical standards and the criminal law. "
What criminal law? There was no anti polygamy law that i know of until after the Mormons chose self-exile nd were in Utah.
14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 0 replies · +7 points
Good grief, where do you people get your info?
14 years ago @ Big Journalism - Why the Left-Wing Hate... · 2 replies · +5 points