I believe it violates the equal protection clause in the constitution, you can not divide people up into classes.

Bottom line is Unions need to go, they\'ve served their purpose and now they are nothing more than thugs, like Obama.

Thanks for your reply Dan, as I've pointed out I have dyslexia and I make errors... point them out and I'll fix them... but arrogant asses like you don't take time to discovery that fact found on the "About" page, nope you just want to talk down to those that do not live up to your grammatical expectations. However based on you comment I'd say you are a lib that is nothing more than a poser that want to take cheap shots and run... seeing how you left no email address and opted for public criticism instead of the contact form.

But I'm man enough to approve your jejune post and move on. Have a nice day.

Note to reader... Dan make several charges and fails to cite a single example, thus revealing himself as a poser.

Fixed it you typed < / a > and not < / b >

My bubble is just fine.

The thing is you just don’t get it. You attack offset because people are taking voluntary action on something you disagree with. In this case, it is the government receiving a donation from a non-profit that has caught your wrath. You think that the government should do nothing that you disagree with.

Caught my wrath? No, I can point you in the direction of those that have really caught my wrath... this is nothing.

Well guess what, they do lots of things I disagree with. They give billions to the coal and oil industry in direct and indirect subsidies. They support wars that I don’t personally agree with that cost tax payers billions and cost people their lives. But the government also ensures that I get clean water, that I have roads to travel on and all sorts of other services that I want. So I take it all with a grain of salt. That opinions must be balanced, nothing will be perfect, and the United States of America wasn’t design to make me personally happy.

Ask yourself how you life would be with oil and coal, would you have a car, a computer, all the modern niceties brought about by the industrial revolution fueled by oil and coal. Would you prefer we revert back to the 1850's before the combustion engine and electricity? I'll pass as I dealt with that in an ice storm a year ago. (Guess global warming caused it?)

You can cite scientific studies all you want or articles about how the earth isn’t warming. If you look hard enough I bet that you can still to this day find a scientist that states that white people are superior to blacks or that phrenology is an appropriate way to measure aptitude.

Now this is a typical race baiting remark, really aren't you above that? It hasn't a damn thing to do with the topic. As for phrenology I place that on same line as climate science.

But you know damn well that the preponderance of the evidence is on the side of the global warming supporters. I won’t deny that there are valid scientific opinions that state otherwise, but you can find 10 scientists that support man made global warming for every one that is against it.

What preponderance of the evidence? Oh that's rich! Would that be the evidence from East Anglia's climate-gate University? Would that be sampling of three trees in Siberia and establishing a trend? Would that be the cherry picking data to suit and agenda? As for tens of thousands of scientist supporting global warming I can give you a list of ten of thousands of scientist that call it a scam. (Over 31,000 to be exact.)

Sometimes I like to compare the threat of global warming to the threat of your house burning up. Will your house burn down? That is very, very unlikely. But we still have fire insurance. It is because of that .0001% chance that it will happen to us that we take action today.

Sounds great but you have fire insurance because if you have a mortgage you are required to have it, it's not to protect you it's to protect the investment of the mortgage company. Surely you are bright enough to know that. Then again my fire insurance isn't estimated to cost $57 trillion, which is the estimate for fighting global warming. You can take it to the bank, if my fire insurance was 4 times my household GDP I'd have to risk it. (US GDP is 14.2 T)

Why do we treat the climate differently. I mean, are you seriously convinced that there is a 0% chance that climate change is real? You are seriously telling me that literally tens of thousands of scientists, governments from all over the world including ours, businesses, individuals are all being duped by a giant conspiracy?

No climate change is real it's called seasons where I’m from. Yesterday was cold and sunny, today it's frigid and snowing... the climate changed, it happens. As for the loony lemmings on the left that have a need to jump on the global warming band wagon do you really believe that they do that because they care, or is it because they want to appear they care while they jet around in private planes and enjoy limousine lifestyles... it's the chic of the moment and this to will pass. You need look no further than Al Gore.

I don't do conspiracies, however I do identify hypocrisy and lemming and call them out.

You are free to believe whatever you want, but rationally, there is no way to look at all this and say there is a 0% chance global warming is real. And if there is even a chance that it is real, I think we should take action.

You wanna bet? Here is the deal; you have roughly the last 160 years of climate data records on a planet that is over five billion years old. You seem to like numbers so that's a sample size of 0.000000032% of the history of the world, not exactly a large enough of a sample rate to be reliable. That is a kin to taking a pinch of sand from a single beach and saying every beach in the world is like this tiny pinch. It's insane to think you can predict a trend based on such tiny sample size. Do something conservative and think logically for a minute and do the math.

What happened to the mini ice age in medieval times? What happened to the last ice age 10,000 years ago? What about the one before that and the one before that? Where did they go and what caused them to end? Was it the Knights Templar riding ruck-shot across Europe in SUV's? Or is it just a long climate cycle that occurs again and again? Which puts us right back in the lap of not enough data.

What actions should we take? Now that is where the real debate between people of differing opinions begins.

First thing use some damn common sense. Solar panels and wind turbines are not going to save the world... ask T. Boon Pickens who abandon the wind farm idea as not economically viable. If wind farms and solar farms were viable then we'd be using them and the tax payer wouldn't be funding there development and paying people to install them, I might note the manufacture in CHINA is coal fired and the manufacturing process as killed the river it dumps into for miles down stream. (I saw that on either the liberal Dicovery or NatGeo so you know it's true.) But you never see that, so you don't know that in order to go green on more side of the world the other side has to go brown.

What to do... skip this baby step technology of wind and solar and use the natural resources we have right here in the good ol USA and develop hydrogen power, hydrogen is renewable, it is green and it does not relay on the wind blowing or the sun shining. It could be the prefect form of energy.

I will not argue that dirty power is good; I try to take care of my environment... I try to conserve energy when possible, but I do not what to be lectured to from a bunch lemming in limos about how I've a flat-earther when they just don't have the data to prove their claims. All I ask is that common sense is used and right now this global warming/climate change hyperbole is lacking in both common sense and honest science.

It is ironic I'm debating global warming and it's 11 degrees outside and going down, additionally you'll be happy to know I'm burning wood and gas heat to stay warm and I'm toasty.

EDIT: If you reply start a new post as this is getting far to narrow.

I\'m sorry you\'ll have to contact the Nigerian Knickerbomber with the load in his panties to collect.

Paul I do not believe you are sold on the hype of the produce you represent, you just don't seem passionate enough in it's defense.
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You believe you are so intellectually and morally superior that you will not lower yourself to debate the 'great unwashed' as they are to dense to comprehend.

Then again maybe I've just hit to many nails on the head.

It's one or the others, question is which one is it?

BTW One get be 'angry' without being hostile just as one may produce CO2 unaided by modern technology. Speaking of which I'm going to toss another log on the fire and free some carbon imprisoned by a plant.

You seem nice enough too, however you are not a maker of snake oil as that would request a physical product, Carbon Fund is only selling smug liberal warm fuzzies and that's and a buck will get you a cup of coffee.

"I am not going to engage in a conversation about the validity of carbon offset with you. There is simply no point."

Correct, you can not defend what you can not prove.

"Carbonfund.org donated the offsets."

So since you sell nothing you have donated nothing, I guess that qualifies a mutual warm fuzzy for the collective circle jerk? However, you are engaging in evil capitalism via tax funded advertising on Census vehicles and websites in addition to free press and media. After all Paul what are the odds you'd come to this site without having received a web spider media alert? About the same as global cooling and next ice age being imminent in the 1970's (remember that?)

(NOTE: Carbon Fund dot scam donated 223 metric tons of carbon credit to the Censeless, at a street value of $10 metric dollar a ton or $2230.00 total donation for all that free advertising... pretty sweet deal don't you think?)

"Have fun shoveling. Glad you aren’t using the more carbon intensive snow blower. I will now return to my snake oil."

I live in the SOUTH where snow is uncommon but thanks to global warming I have it, but if it was common I can guarantee you I would have a snow blower attached to my John Deere tractor, however since I'm a carbon based life form and exhale more CO2 when working according to your racket I'll need an offset.

Seriously Paul I'll have a "educated class" conversation with you or anyone on carbon emissions and CO2 in the environment... might I ask you to start with this from a early post of my own...

Stop Breathing - EPA says: carbon dioxide (CO2) a pollutant.

There is around 186 billion tons of CO2 that enter earth's atmosphere each year from all sources, only 6 billion tons are from human activity. Approximately 90 billion tons come from biologic activity in earth's oceans and another 90 billion tons from such sources as volcanoes and decaying land plants.

At 368 parts per million carbon dioxide CO2 is a minor constituent of earth's atmosphere-- less than 4/100 th's of 1% of all gases present. Compared to former geologic times, earth's current atmosphere is CO2- impoverished.

So have fun praying on the ignorant.

Hello Paul seller of snake oil,

First the logo, I never said who came up with it first, doesn't change the fact they look a lot a like.

Thanks for reading, and I noticed that while you took person shots at my editing or lack thereof and made no effort to defend your so-called charity against the charges of being a scammer and a racket, so with that in mind one can conclude that it is just that. Your charity makes money selling nothing more than a warm fuzzy in a box of BS topped with a pretty red bow and my tax dollars are being used to do it, sorry I do not much like that and I might have to get my Republican congressman to look into this bullcrap waste of tax dollars.

Now you will excuse me I have to go shovel a bunch of global warming off my walkway.

Looks like the White House and their “Transparency Like You’ve Never Seen Before.” is true,,, the page is no longer there ,,, so I can't see it.